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2023 IndyCar Season - R17 Laguna Seca 9/10 2:30 pm ET (NBC)

Posted on 3/5/23 at 3:24 am
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 3:24 am
The 2023 IndyCar season is upon us.

What's Good:
1. There are 27 full-time entries. From a car-count perspective it's a very healthy series. Unlike a certain other series, IndyCar is happy to give the fans more cars to watch on-track.
2. Various minor technical and rules changes to improve the racing and improve safety.
3. This year IndyCar has a "Drive to Survive" style show called "100 Days to Indy," which is supposedly designed to bring in new fans.

What's Bad:
1. I believe the commercial breaks will still feature a mix of cutting completely away from the action and showing the live race in a side box. While it would be unrealistic to expect a commercial-free race, the commercials that cut completely away from the race kill casual fan interest and is bad business.
2. While most races will be on NBC, the TV package is slightly worse this year, with Road America and Mid-Ohio being shown on the USA Network, another development that will weaken casual fan interest.
3. The schedule still includes two visits to the Indianapolis Road Course.
4. The new "100 Days to Indy" show will be shown on "The CW," which means no one will see it.

In other words, there's nothing too exciting and new this year. We'll have to wait for next year's transition to hybrid power units for a major change.





Full Race Results and Season Standings


2023 Schedule / Results

R01 St. Petersburg - P1 Marcus Ericsson, P2 Pato O'Ward, P3 Scott Dixon
R02 Texas Motor Speedway - P1 Josef Newgarden, P2 Pato O'Ward, P3 Alex Palou
R03 Long Beach - P1 Kyle Kirkwood, P2 Romain Grosjean, P3 Marcus Ericsson
R04 Barber Motorsports Park - P1 Scott McLaughlin, P2 Romain Grosjean, P3 Will Power
R05 IMS Road Course - P1 Alex Palou, P2 Pato O'Ward, P3 Alexander Rossi
R06 Indy 500 - P1 Josef Newgarden, P2 Marcus Ericsson, P3 Santino Ferrucci
R07 Detroit - P1 Alex Palou, P2 Will Power, P3 Felix Rosenqvist
R08 Road America - P1 Alex Palou, P2 Josef Newgarden, P3 Pato O'Ward
R09 Mid-Ohio - P1 Alex Palou, P2 Scott Dixon, P3 Will Power
R10 Toronto - P1 Christian Lundgaard, P2 Alex Palou, P3 Colton Herta
R11 Iowa - P1 Josef Newgarden, P2 Scott McLaughlin, P3 Pato O'Ward
R12 Iowa - P1 Josef Newgarden, P2 Will Power, P3 Alex Palou
R13 Nashville - P1 Kyle Kirkwood, P2 Scott McLaughlin, P3 Alex Palou
R14 IMS Road Course - P1 Scott Dixon, P2 Graham Rahal, P3 Pato O'Ward
R15 Gateway - P1 Scott Dixon, P2 Pato O'Ward, P3 David Malukas

R16 Portland - September 3, 3:00 pm ET NBC
R17 Laguna Seca - September 10, 2:30 pm ET NBC



2023 Season Standings (after 15 races)
(+/- number of positions gained or lost since the previous race)

P01 Alex Palou (Ganassi / Honda) 565 pts (+0)
P02 Scott Dixon (Ganassi / Honda) 491 pts (+0)
P03 Josef Newgarden (Penske / Chevy) 440 pts (+0)
P04 Pato O'Ward (McLaren / Chevy) 429 pts (+1)
P05 Scott McLaughlin (Penske / Chevy) 426 pts (-1)
P06 Marcus Ericsson (Ganassi / Honda) 397 pts (+0)
P07 Will Power (Penske / Chevy) 388 pts (+0)
P08 Christian Lundgaard (Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda) 343 pts (+0)
P09 Alexander Rossi (McLaren / Chevy) 339 pts (+1)
P10 Colton Herta (Andretti / Honda) 331 pts (+1)

P11 Kyle Kirkwood (Andretti / Honda) 327 pts (-2)
P12 Romain Grosjean (Andretti / Honda) 271 pts (+0)
P13 Felix Rosenqvist (McLaren / Chevy) 270 pts (+0)
P14 Graham Rahal (Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda) 251 pts (+0)
P15 Rinus VeeKay (Carpenter / Chevy) 237 pts (+0)
P16 David Malukas (Coyne / Honda) 230 pts (+1)
P17 Callum Ilott (Juncos Hollinger / Chevy) 221 pts (-1)
P18 Santino Ferrucci (Foyt / Chevy) 187 pts (+2)
P19 Hélio Castroneves (Meyer Shank / Honda) 184 pts (+0)
P20 Marcus Armstrong [R] (Ganassi / Honda) 179 pts (-2)

P21 Agustín Canapino [R] (Juncos Hollinger / Chevy) 159 pts (+0)
P22 Devlin DeFrancesco (Andretti / Honda) 156 pts (+1)
P23 Jack Harvey (Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda) 146 pts (-1)
P24 Conor Daly (Carpenter/Chevy & Meyer Shank/Honda) 134 pts (+0)
P25 Sting Ray Robb [R] (Coyne / Honda) 122 pts (+0)
P26 Benjamin Pedersen [R] (Foyt / Chevy) 107 pts (+0)
P27 Ryan Hunter-Reay (D&R + Carpenter / Chevy) 102 pts (+1)
P28 Simon Pagenaud (Meyer Shank / Honda) 88 pts (-1)

P29 Takuma Sato (Ganassi / Honda) 70 pts (+0)
P30 Ed Carpenter (Carpenter / Chevy) 46 pts (+0)
P31 Linus Lundqvist (Meyer Shank / Honda) 35 pts (+0)
P32 Tony Kanaan (McLaren / Chevy) 18 pts (+0)
P33 Marco Andretti (Andretti / Honda) 13 pts (+0)
P34 Katherine Legge (Rahal Letterman Lanigan / Honda) 5 pts
P35 RC Enerson (Abel Motorsports / Chevy) 5 pts
P36 Tom Blomqvist (Meyer Shank / Honda) 5 pts




Entry List

There are 27 full-time entries, and 34 entries for the Indy 500, so there will be a bump session.

Team Penske - Chevrolet
No. 2 - Josef Newgarden
No. 3 - Scott McLaughlin
No. 12 - Will Power

Chip Ganassi Racing - Honda
No. 8 - Marcus Ericsson
No. 9 - Scott Dixon
No. 10 - Alex Palou
No. 11 - Marcus Armstrong (R) (road & street only)
No. 11 - Takuma Sato (ovals only)

Arrow McLaren - Chevrolet
No. 5 - Pato O'Ward
No. 6 - Felix Rosenqvist
No. 7 - Alexander Rossi
No. 66 - Tony Kanaan (Indy 500 only)

Andretti Autosport - Honda
No. 26 - Colton Herta
No. 27 - Kyle Kirkwood
No. 28 - Romain Grosjean
No. 29 - Devlin DeFrancesco
No. 98 - Marco Andretti (Indy 500 only)

Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing - Honda
No. 15 - Graham Rahal (Bumped from Indy 500. See Dreyer & Reinbold.)
No. 30 - Jack Harvey (Races 1-14. Last race IMS Road Course.)
No. 30 - Conor Daly (Gateway)
No. 30 - Juri Vips (Portland, Laguna Seca)
No. 45 - Christian Lundgaard
No. 44 - Katherine Legge (Indy 500 only)

Ed Carpenter Racing - Chevrolet
No. 20 - Conor Daly (Races 1-7. Last race Detroit.)
No. 20 - Ryan Hunter-Reay (Races 8-17)
No. 21 - Rinus VeeKay
No. 33 - Ed Carpenter (ovals only)

Meyer Shank Racing - Honda
No. 06 - Hélio Castroneves
No. 60 - Simon Pagenaud (Races 1-8. Last race Road America.)
No. 60 - Conor Daly (Mid-Ohio, Iowa)
No. 60 - Tom Blomqvist (Toronto, Portland, Laguna Seca)
No. 60 - Linus Lundqvist (Nashville, IMS Road Course, Gateway)

Dale Coyne Racing - Honda
No. 18 - David Malukas
No. 51 - Sting Ray Robb (R)

Juncos Hollinger Racing - Chevrolet
No. 77 - Callum Ilott
No. 78 - Agustín Canapino (R)

A.J. Foyt Racing - Chevrolet
No. 14 - Santino Ferrucci
No. 55 - Benjamin Pedersen (R)

Dreyer & Reinbold Racing - Chevrolet
No. 23 - Ryan Hunter-Reay (Indy 500 only)
No. 24 - Stefan Wilson (Indy 500 only, qualified but DNS)
No. 24 - Graham Rahal (Indy 500 substitute for injured Wilson)

Abel Motorsports - Chevrolet
No. 50 - RC Enerson (Indy 500 only)

This post was edited on 9/10/23 at 12:36 pm
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 3:24 am to
2022 Driver Championship - Full 2022 driver standings

1. Will Power 560 pts (1 win)
2. Josef Newgarden 544 pts (5 wins)
3. Scott Dixon 521 pts (2 wins)
4. Scott McLaughlin 510 pts (3 wins)
5. Alex Palou 510 pts (1 win)
6. Marcus Ericsson 506 pts (1 win)
7. Pato O'Ward 480 pts (2 wins)
8. Felix Rosenqvist 393 pts (0 wins)
9. Alexander Rossi 381 pts (1 win)
10. Colton Herta 381 pts (1 win)
11. Graham Rahal 345 pts (0 wins)
12. Rinus VeeKay 331 pts (0 wins)

2023 Rookies

#11 Marcus Armstrong [R] (Ganassi / Honda) - Last year competed in F2 with 3 wins.
#51 Sting Ray Robb [R] (Coyne / Honda) - Last year competed in Indy Lights with 1 win and P2 in the championship.
#55 Benjamin Pedersen [R] (Foyt / Chevy) - Last year competed in Indy Lights with 1 win and P5 in the championship.
#78 Agustín Canapino [R] (Juncos Hollinger / Chevy) - Canapino is a very strange signing. He's 33 years old with a long record of success in Argentinian touring car series, with multiple championships. This is not how drivers typically prepare to race IndyCar. So what's the connection? He signed with Juncos Hollinger Racing. Ricardo Juncos is an Argentinian former driver and current owner of teams in IndyCar, Indy Lights (now Indy NXT), and Indy Pro 2000. That explains the connection but not why Juncos would make such a strange decision.

Driver Shuffle

Despite success on the ovals, Jimmie Johnson never got fully up-to-speed on the road and street courses. Many expected him to do an oval-only schedule this year, but Johnson is completely out of IndyCar.

Alexander Rossi developed a somewhat toxic relationship with his Andretti Autosport team, so a change in scenery was the best way forward. Rossi signed with McLaren for a third full-time entry.

Kyle Kirkwood had a very rough season with AJ Foyt last year, but he remained highly regarded, and signed with Andretti this year to replace the departed Rossi.

AJ Foyt had to replace two drivers this year. Kyle Kirkwood moved to Andretti, and Dalton Kellett retired from racing. Foyt signed veteran Santino Ferrucci to the #14 car, and rookie Benjamin Pedersen to the #55 entry.

Takuma Sato wanted to run a full schedule this year but reduced personal sponsorship killed that plan. He did however have the budget to do just the five oval races this year, and that it looks like that melded perfectly with Chip Ganassi's intention to hire F2 driver Marcus Armstrong. Apparently these wussy European-bred racers prefer to ease their transition to American open-wheel racing by running on just road and street course their first year. With Sato's availability, Ganassi was happy to let rookie Armstrong focus on the familiar, and improve the team's oval outlook with two-time Indy 500 champion Sato.

With Sato having inadequate sponsorship, Dale Coyne's #51 Rick Ware Racing entry was available, so he they signed rookie Sting Ray Robb to replace Sato.

Juncos Hollinger ran just Callum Ilott last year. This year they have expanded to two full-time entries, signing rookie Agustín Canapino for the new seat.

Driver Almost Shuffle

Alex Palou ended up embarrassing himself last year by declaring that he was going to race for McLaren this year. Chip Ganassi begged to differ and he either sued Palou or maybe just threatened to sue, but apparently Palou got wise and realized that Ganassi had the better legal position.

This post was edited on 3/5/23 at 4:33 am
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 3:25 am to
St. Petersburg

Romain Grosjean got his 2nd ever pole position. Can he translate this into his long-awaited maiden win?

Starting Grid

1. Romain Grosjean
2. Colton Herta
3. Pato O’Ward
4. Marcus Ericsson
5. Kyle Kirkwood
6. Scott McLaughlin
7. Alex Palou
8. Felix Rosenqvist
9. Scott Dixon
10. Will Power
11. Christian Lundgaard
12. Alexander Rossi
13. Marcus Armstrong
14. Josef Newgarden
15. Helio Castroneves
16. David Malukas
17. Santino Ferrucci
18. Devlin DeFrancesco
19. Jack Harvey
20. Graham Rahal
21. Agustin Canapino
22. Callum Ilott
23. Sting Ray Robb
24. Rinus VeeKay
25. Simon Pagenaud
26. Conor Daly
27. Benjamin Pederson
This post was edited on 3/5/23 at 4:52 am
Posted by tccdc
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 5:31 am to
TouchedtheAxel....you are the best for this...part of the reason why I like Indy is because I know I can come here and catchup on the latest from you

I am hoping for a good year from team Andretti...excited to see how Herta matures.

Also, I expect Mclaughlin to continue to get better.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 5:40 am to
Posted by Burhead
Member since Dec 2014
2099 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 11:39 am to
Big pile up on lap one. Helio got out of his car with a limp.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
48511 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 11:55 am to
A dude named Sting Ray Robb, from Idaho, is driving in this race.
Posted by tccdc
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Member since Sep 2007
3565 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 12:09 pm to
Hearing Simon say Sting Ray
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 12:11 pm to
That was a gnarly pile-up.

Yeah Sting Ray might feel more at home in NASCAR.
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 12:14 pm to
Andretti cars dominating so far. It's been a while since we've seen multiple Andrettis at the very front.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 12:20 pm to
Herta, Mr. Next Big Thing in F1, is getting gapped by Grosjean.
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 12:28 pm to
You might notice on the graphic that the alternate tires are marked as green instead of the usual red color. Firestone has developed a soft alternate tire from "sustainable" materials, and it doesn't sound like they are doing very well. Some drivers are dealing with them better than others. These tires were used at Nashville last year without complaint I think. So maybe they're just doing worse on this surface.
Posted by Burhead
Member since Dec 2014
2099 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 12:47 pm to
Another car going airborne today.
Posted by tccdc
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 1:23 pm to
dammit.....Romain is out ....he deserved it...
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 1:28 pm to
I'm laughing at the ineptitude.

Surprised Grosjean didn't pull a wing off his car to beat MacLaughlin to death with.
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 1:31 pm to
The difference between champions like Dixon vs these clowns is that the champions know that the racing is tight and the championship is long, so they avoid forcing these situations.
Posted by Burhead
Member since Dec 2014
2099 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 1:36 pm to
I don’t really fault Grosjean he was going for his first win.
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

I don’t really fault Grosjean he was going for his first win.

I get it, a first win is huge, but he's a very experienced veteran, not a green rookie. If you're at the front because of luck (e.g., lucky yellows) then you have to go for it, but if you're at the front because you and your car are fast, then you should know you'll get more opportunities and shouldn't push it. Grosjean will never challenge for a championship because this is who he is, always pushing it and getting into incidents. It doesn't matter if the other guy is to blame. Dixon avoids this shite and is always in the hunt.
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 1:56 pm to
Wow looks like O'Ward made a big mistake!

McLaren having a bad day.
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