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re: 2022 Formula 1 Season Thread

Posted on 11/23/22 at 10:00 pm to
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 10:00 pm to
I don't know if you sum it up in dollars, but Checo has been driving the same* car as the world champion the last two years and has just two more wins than Ricciardo does in far inferior equipment.

Maybe Ricciardo has peaked or whatever, but I'd put him in a car before Perez. No matter what this year showed.
Posted by kengel2
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 10:18 pm to
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don't know if you sum it up in dollars,


Of course we can, does the dude drive like the fifth highest paid driver? No, he doesn't. He's over rated and over paid. That's why he doesn't have a ride next year and will be a test driver.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 10:29 pm to
Ah, so the 20th best driver in the world is in an F1 car.

Got it.
Posted by kengel2
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 10:33 pm to
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Ah, so the 20th best driver in the world is in an F1 car.


The 20th best driver on F1 isn't paid the fifth highest salary is he?
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 10:37 pm to
Likely isn't paid as the 20th. Pay seldom equates the actual rank in F1.

That's why judging if anyone is overrated by pay is a useless metric.
Posted by kengel2
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 10:48 pm to
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Likely isn't paid as the 20th. Pay seldom equates the actual rank in F1.


It's not an exact science..no, but it isn't exact in any sport.

Rarely, does the top paid NFL position player finish the season at the top of their position.

I said Danny ric was over rated as a driver.

The dude finished 11th in the driver standings. He's been paid as the fifth best driver. Is that not over rated or over valued?
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 10:48 pm to
As I said he’s rated about right. I didn’t say he wasn’t overpaid.

And we can disagree but checo and Danny ric in equal equipment? I take Danny ric
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 10:51 pm to
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He’s better than Checo.

In what way? The last time they were in comparable cars Perez finished comfortably ahead in the standings despite missing 2 races entirely.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 11:12 pm to
The 4th highest paid finished two spots ahead of RIC in 9th.

Alonso overrated!
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16201 posts
Posted on 11/24/22 at 7:07 am to
Alo was the best of the rest along with Ric teammate most of the year while Ric routinely didn't make it it to Q2. Lando and Alo both outperformed ric. I like him but watching him fighting for 15th every race wasnt a good look especially with where Lando was.
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 11/24/22 at 11:02 am to
Well I guess it will be interesting to see how these posts play out if and when Ricc ends up in a rocket on the circuit again next season.
Was his performance a sum of the situation?
Or did he lose a step?
Posted by bikerack
NH
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 11/25/22 at 4:42 pm to
Word circulating on twitter that Binotto is out...they are just waiting on a formal announcement.
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31313 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 5:02 pm to
No doubt Max wants Checo out. Can’t handle a shred of competition or anyone that stands up to his a-hole behavior. Verstappen is now the biggest pussy on the circuit. Bigger than Hamilton at this point
This post was edited on 11/25/22 at 5:03 pm
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:28 pm to
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No doubt Max wants Checo out. Can’t handle a shred of competition


Every single #1 driver is the same way.

Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10275 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 9:20 pm to
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Word circulating on twitter that Binotto is out...they are just waiting on a formal announcement.

He was the guy in charge of the Ferrari brand becoming the laughing stock of the sport for the majority of the season. There’s no way they keep him
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 10:42 pm to
When they started the season kicking arse and Binotto said they didn't plan to compete for the championship I was wondering what the frick was wrong with him.

As the season progressed and he continually said there was nothing wrong with their strategy, while also fricking Chuck hard a few times, I knew this guy was not long for Ferrari.

He should have stayed in the engineering office. He's been a complete failure as a TP.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 10:44 pm to
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No doubt Max wants Checo out.


Perez is zero threat to Max.

You could put about any other driver in the field in the RB second car and they would do as well as Perez at a minimum. He's a decidedly average, or below, F1 driver.

To say Max feels threatened by him is laughable.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10275 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 12:03 am to
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When they started the season kicking arse and Binotto said they didn't plan to compete for the championship I was wondering what the frick was wrong with him.

Completely forgot about this. I understand they didn’t want the brand hit of making a mid-season change, but damn the need was obvious
Posted by euphemus
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 11/26/22 at 12:41 am to
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Verstappen is now the biggest pussy on the circuit. Bigger than Hamilton at this point

How do you figure Hamilton a pussy? Does he whine on the radio a bit about his tires being gone and other shite? Sure, but which driver doesn't?

He has never asked for preferential treatment or No.1 status at McLaren or at Mercedes as far as I can recall. He has always been willing to race his teammate on the track. I'm genuinely confused by your post.
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31313 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 10:47 am to
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How do you figure Hamilton a pussy? Does he whine on the radio a bit about his tires being gone and other shite?


Hamilton absolutely whines and complains about tires, other drivers, preferential treatment etc. He plays victim in every circumstance and it’s always someone else’s fault when he doesn’t win. And no, I don’t think it’s every driver or number 1 driver that does this. I’ve been watching the sport since the early 90s and Hamilton and Verstappen take pussy behavior to unreachable heights. Schumacher, Hakkinen, Raikonen, Vettel and so many others didn’t make excuses like these two do.

Let me know how else I can clarify your confusion.
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