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2021 Baseball HOF | No Elections (Schilling 71.1% was closest)
Posted on 11/16/20 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 11/16/20 at 12:28 pm
Results
Update: Bumping this for the voting results tomorrow. Looks like this will be a blank year, which is INSANE considering the list of players on the ballot. Next year will be a mess adding Arod, Ortiz, Hunter and Tex
538 article on why we likely won't see any inductees
Ryan Thibodaux's tracker
Official Ballot released today
Interesting ballot this year, I don't see anyone who is a slam dunk to get in this year, I could see it being an empty year, depends on how many people hate Curt Schilling.
For first year players, we have a couple of "accumulators" in Buehrle and Hudson. Very good careers but never dominant. Buehrle just being a innings machine, posting 200+ IP every full season of his career except his final where he got 198.2. Hudson had higher highs with 4 top 6 Cy Young finishes. Unfortunately, half his career WAR came in his 6 seasons in Oakland, and then only had 2 more seasons of 4+ WAR.
Returning players is a smattering of steroid era and borderline players(7 players with between 55-62 WAR). Lots of room for debate with those guys.
So now onto my annual Scot Rolen soapbox moment. Put the fricker in the HOF already. He's a top 10 player all-time at his position, Top 5 defensively, if not top 3.
First-year ballot members
Return Ballot members
My Ballot (no particular order)
Clemens
Schilling
Bonds
Rolen
Manny
Jones
Update: Bumping this for the voting results tomorrow. Looks like this will be a blank year, which is INSANE considering the list of players on the ballot. Next year will be a mess adding Arod, Ortiz, Hunter and Tex
538 article on why we likely won't see any inductees
Ryan Thibodaux's tracker
Official Ballot released today
Interesting ballot this year, I don't see anyone who is a slam dunk to get in this year, I could see it being an empty year, depends on how many people hate Curt Schilling.
For first year players, we have a couple of "accumulators" in Buehrle and Hudson. Very good careers but never dominant. Buehrle just being a innings machine, posting 200+ IP every full season of his career except his final where he got 198.2. Hudson had higher highs with 4 top 6 Cy Young finishes. Unfortunately, half his career WAR came in his 6 seasons in Oakland, and then only had 2 more seasons of 4+ WAR.
Returning players is a smattering of steroid era and borderline players(7 players with between 55-62 WAR). Lots of room for debate with those guys.
So now onto my annual Scot Rolen soapbox moment. Put the fricker in the HOF already. He's a top 10 player all-time at his position, Top 5 defensively, if not top 3.
First-year ballot members
Return Ballot members
My Ballot (no particular order)
Clemens
Schilling
Bonds
Rolen
Manny
Jones
This post was edited on 1/26/21 at 5:21 pm
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Posted on 11/16/20 at 12:32 pm to barry
Wagner should get in
Other than that no slam dunks and of course you have all the steroid players as well
Wait until you have to try and find suitable candidates from today's analytical players - it's going to be hard
Starters are getting pulled as bullpens have taken over the game - harder to pile up wins
Position players will have some mundane stats compared to former players. You will have some slam dunk players like Trout and Harper who likely will never win a title and a Mookie Betts type player.
Other than that no slam dunks and of course you have all the steroid players as well
Wait until you have to try and find suitable candidates from today's analytical players - it's going to be hard
Starters are getting pulled as bullpens have taken over the game - harder to pile up wins
Position players will have some mundane stats compared to former players. You will have some slam dunk players like Trout and Harper who likely will never win a title and a Mookie Betts type player.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 12:50 pm to nicholastiger
quote:
Wait until you have to try and find suitable candidates from today's analytical players - it's going to be hard
No it won't, because you will have writers versed in analytics making those decisions.
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Starters are getting pulled as bullpens have taken over the game - harder to pile up wins
Good thing there are plenty of other stats to look at.
quote:
Position players will have some mundane stats compared to former players. You will have some slam dunk players like Trout and Harper who likely will never win a title and a Mookie Betts type player.
Harper is no slam dunk. What stats will be mundane?
Posted on 11/16/20 at 12:52 pm to barry
Shill will be the only one to get in.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 12:53 pm to barry
Clemens and Bonds have to go in. If the writers were honest with themselves they would not have elected multiple people to hall.
I am torn on Rolen, he is Biggio to me. He was not somebody you stopped to watch a game for. He was good to great, but not hey plan your evening around to watch. To me that is the mark of a HoF player.
I am torn on Rolen, he is Biggio to me. He was not somebody you stopped to watch a game for. He was good to great, but not hey plan your evening around to watch. To me that is the mark of a HoF player.
This post was edited on 11/16/20 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 11/16/20 at 12:55 pm to barry
Yes, because when I think "Hall of Fame", the first names that come to my mind are Shane Victorino and LaTroy Hawkins 
Posted on 11/16/20 at 12:56 pm to barry
quote:
Manny
Nope
Posted on 11/16/20 at 12:58 pm to barry
quote:
Harper is no slam dunk
He probably shouldn’t be, but he’ll get in easily on the first ballot if he stays healthy
Posted on 11/16/20 at 1:00 pm to barry
2300 hits and 380 home runs at third base.
Adrian Beltre
Chipper Jones
Eddie Mathews
Aramis Ramirez
Adrian Beltre
Chipper Jones
Eddie Mathews
Aramis Ramirez
Posted on 11/16/20 at 1:02 pm to barry
Maybe not first ballot but Buehrle should get in. World Series champ, win and a save in the series. Perfect game and a no hitter. 4 Gold Gloves.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 1:04 pm to nicholastiger
The slam dunk plahyers right now playing that will be in HoF, in my ignorant opinion:
Trout
Kershaw
Pujols
Miguel Cabrera
Verlander
Grienke
Hernandez
Scherzer
Then you get into arguments for guys like
Chapman
Bregman
Lester
Cruz
Trout
Kershaw
Pujols
Miguel Cabrera
Verlander
Grienke
Hernandez
Scherzer
Then you get into arguments for guys like
Chapman
Bregman
Lester
Cruz
This post was edited on 11/16/20 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 11/16/20 at 1:12 pm to sms151t
Bregman has a long way to go plus the voters are going to hammer the ones affected by the Astros scandal
Posted on 11/16/20 at 1:22 pm to barry
Clemens
Schilling
Bonds
Vizquel
Rolen
Wagner
Sheffield
Helton
Manny
Kent
Yeah, the top 10 from last year, none of the new guys this year.
Schilling
Bonds
Vizquel
Rolen
Wagner
Sheffield
Helton
Manny
Kent
Yeah, the top 10 from last year, none of the new guys this year.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 1:23 pm to Lester Earl
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Aramis Ramirez
Quite the enigma, only person putting up 4 WAR seasons in their prime then putting up a negative 1+ WAR season the next. Had no business playing 3rd base.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 1:24 pm to nicholastiger
quote:
Wait until you have to try and find suitable candidates from today's analytical players - it's going to be hard
Why?
Posted on 11/16/20 at 1:35 pm to sms151t
quote:
I am torn on Rolen, he is Biggio to me. He was not somebody you stopped to watch a game for. He was good to great, but not hey plan your evening around to watch. To me that is the mark of a HoF player.
Well that's a shitty method of judging if people are on of the best every in their chosen sport.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 1:37 pm to barry
Vizquel should be in. Best defensive infielder in the history of the game.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 1:42 pm to sms151t
quote:
I am torn on Rolen, he is Biggio to me.
So... a hall of famer?
Posted on 11/16/20 at 1:50 pm to sms151t
quote:
Trout
Kershaw
Pujols
Miguel Cabrera
Verlander
Grienke
Hernandez
Scherzer
Cano is a lock
Votto is a lock
Felix is the only one of that group I don't think gets in. He was really good for only a 7 year stretch, and even then it wasn't GREAT
quote:
Then you get into arguments for guys like
Chapman
Bregman
Lester
Cruz
Bregman is the only one who has a chance IMO
I think the players who are a likely lock to get in who wouldn't be in today if their careers were over are
Mookie
Machado
Arenado
This post was edited on 11/16/20 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 11/16/20 at 1:53 pm to m57
quote:
Vizquel should be in. Best defensive infielder in the history of the game.
Uh no
Ozzie Smith says hi and Ripken was better too.
Also Andrelton Simmons
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