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RidiculousHype
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2 questions about the 2017 Astros
1) If the video cheating system was only used at home, why did the Astros score 395 runs at home and 501 runs on the road?

2) If banging a trash can was the mechanism for relaying the pitch type to the batter, how did they execute this during the postseason when the crowd makes a lot of noise while the home team is batting?


KCM0Tiger
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re: 2 questions about the 2017 Astros
Astros are cheaters. Accept it.

Ban the players and strip the title!


List Eater
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re: 2 questions about the 2017 Astros
3) Verlander was a last second trade. He had nothing to do with whatever was going on in a new locker room. The faux outrage directed towards him is laughable.


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re: 2 questions about the 2017 Astros
Are they Indians really cheating when they bang the drums in outfield too??


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burdman
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re: 2 questions about the 2017 Astros
Sounds like your position is the sign stealing is made up.


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re: 2 questions about the 2017 Astros
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Astros are cheaters. Accept it.

Ban the players and strip the title!




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RidiculousHype
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re: 2 questions about the 2017 Astros
Not at all. I have no dog in this fight. Just haven't seen answers to those 2 questions.


bayourougebengal
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re: 2 questions about the 2017 Astros
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1) If the video cheating system was only used at home, why did the Astros score 395 runs at home and 501 runs on the road?

Because they're a really really good baseball team. They just happen to be cheating pieces of shite.

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2) If banging a trash can was the mechanism for relaying the pitch type to the batter, how did they execute this during the postseason when the crowd makes a lot of noise while the home team is batting?

allegedly whistles
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burdman
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re: 2 questions about the 2017 Astros
Same here. Haven't even read the particulars of the ordeal to be honest.

Just seemed like the questions were questioning whether it even happened or not.


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RidiculousHype
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re: 2 questions about the 2017 Astros
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Because they're a really really good baseball team. They just happen to be cheating pieces of shite.

I'll give you that, but how bad would the home/road split have been if they didn't cheat? 501 runs on the road, 300 runs at home? 250 at home? That seems to defy explanation.

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allegedly whistles

That would make more sense.
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bayourougebengal
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re: 2 questions about the 2017 Astros
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home/road split

Look at the 2017 postseason batting average splits. And if it didn't help, why do it?


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re: 2 questions about the 2017 Astros
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Look at the 2017 postseason batting average splits. And if it didn't help, why do it?



That's like the Yankees spending all that money to try and buy championships. If it didn't help, then why do it?


PrimetimeDaBoss
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re: 2 questions about the 2017 Astros
Death penalty for the cheating Houston Astros
All players banned for life
Jail for Jose Altuve


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bayourougebengal
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That's like the Yankees spending all that money to try and buy championships. If it didn't help, then why do it?

A: not everything has to be about big brother

B: the Yankees haven't spent much the last few years and have had fans pretty unhappy about it.

C: it's not easy to win championships when teams are pulling off the worst cheating scandal in baseball history.


Lou Pai
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re: 2 questions about the 2017 Astros
That trade should have never happened tbh


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RidiculousHype
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re: 2 questions about the 2017 Astros
2017 Astros postseason
home OPS .862
road OPS .632

Pretty big difference. You'd expect home to be a little better, but .775 home to .725 away would be more realistic.

I just can't figure out why they were so bad at home offensively (relatively speaking) during the regular season vs. away. Maybe they didn't use the system enough to make a difference, and then went full-tilt in the postseason?
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noonan
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re: 2 questions about the 2017 Astros
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Because they're a really really good baseball team. They just happen to be cheating pieces of shite.


Says the Yankees fan. Lol


bayourougebengal
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re: 2 questions about the 2017 Astros
Yes. Am I incorrect?


noonan
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re: 2 questions about the 2017 Astros
So your players aren't cheating pieces of shit?


Lou Pai
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re: 2 questions about the 2017 Astros
2 out of 3 teams they played in the postseason were in the northeast at parks designed for LH hitters while the Astros played their home games in a RH friendly park in room temperature. The regular season stats, both in aggregate, and on a case by case basis for players, pretty much negate any argument that there was a realized, meaningful advantage.
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