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Time for backdoor roth?

Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:02 pm
Posted by indytiger
baton rouge/indy
Member since Oct 2004
9823 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:02 pm
Probably a dumb question, but I can't find anything on line regarding this:

Is there a minimum amount of time you have to wait between adding money to an IRA, and then converting it to a Roth IRA?

For instance, could I add $5500 to an IRA and then convert it to a Roth 2 days later? Thanks folks.
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11665 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:10 pm to
White coat investor guy has a pretty good step by step. I think he waits a day.
Posted by oob02
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
363 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 2:25 pm to
Pretty sure you want to do it as soon as possible, like the next day, so that you don’t have to pay taxes on any gains when you convert it.
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11665 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

Pretty sure you want to do it as soon as possible, like the next day, so that you don’t have to pay taxes on any gains when you convert it.


Yeah. It will just go into a money market account, so it should only gain about $0.01.
Posted by Kreg Jennings
Parts Unknown
Member since Aug 2007
3287 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 11:29 am to
quote:

Probably a dumb question


Have another.

If I contribute to an IRA, and convert it a day after, can I still take the deduction on my taxes?

Asking for a friend.
This post was edited on 11/14/18 at 11:31 am
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 12:19 am to
quote:

Have another.

If I contribute to an IRA, and convert it a day after, can I still take the deduction on my taxes?

Asking for a friend.
Well if you use deductible contributions, and convert then you are liable for that contribution (and any gains) when you convert it to a Roth. So if you contributed the $5,500 as deductible then converted it to a Roth, you would claim the deduction and claim the income on the same form. So it’s a net of 0. And any non-deductible contributions that are converted are a net of 0 as well since you wouldn’t claim either a deduction or income.
Posted by Breauxfessor
Ferriday
Member since Sep 2016
810 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 1:13 pm to
LINK

Backdoor roth is only useful for those making more than $189k AGI (for married jointly). It allows you to make a non-deductible contribution to a traditional IRA, then rollover to a Roth IRA within a few days. Just an easy loophole that every high income earner should do every year as the appreciation of those investments will not be taxable upon sale/withdrawal. It's also a great place to speculate a bit as there is no such thing as capital gains inside of that account. You can trade as frequently as you'd like with no tax consequences.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
11900 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 8:05 pm to
What if you already contributed monthly to a Roth IRA this year and you now need to do the backdrop Roth for 2018?
Posted by tween the hedges
Member since Feb 2012
20240 posts
Posted on 11/18/18 at 11:21 am to
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This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 6:06 pm
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