Page 1
Page 1
Started By
Message

The PPP loan forgiveness process is going to be a cluster

Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:33 pm
Posted by Drunken Crawfish
Member since Apr 2017
3822 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:33 pm
Sitting in on a webinar on how to fill out the PPP loan forgiveness application. This is going to be a nightmare trying to calculate all of this data. Be sure to get your CPAs on speed dial.
Posted by Waterloo
Texas
Member since Mar 2020
97 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:39 pm to
Them Baws in DC can and will continue changing the rules, total shite show.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:41 pm to
Our firm helped one of the big banks process these. To be fair, the protocol was process the loans and we'll figure it all out later. What were they supposed to do, people needed the money
This post was edited on 6/10/20 at 2:42 pm
Posted by Drunken Crawfish
Member since Apr 2017
3822 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:52 pm to
It looks like y'all are going to be busy on this back end too. Its going to suck for these companies trying to get all of these forms filled out, but its going to be even worse for the banks to vet everything.
Posted by ROUSTER
Member since Sep 2003
6838 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:55 pm to
As of now, our bank won't allow us to submit for Loan forgiveness simply because they know that the rules will change 100x before it's over.
Similar to how it was to originally get the PPP money.
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
11875 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 3:05 pm to
I think it will end up being pretty simple..... with 24 weeks to spend - everyone will be forgiven and have experience sea way over (I would suspect)
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50086 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 3:30 pm to
Use the money for payroll , employee healthcare insurance and utilities...you should be solid.
Posted by DLauw
SWLA
Member since Sep 2011
6086 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 3:42 pm to
We just sent all our stuff over to the CPA to see how much we have left to spend.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10256 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 4:08 pm to
I think they will eventually just say, if you borrowed less than $250k, you’re automatically forgiven.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35472 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 8:30 pm to
That’s what we did. Five pay periods. Two group health insurance payments. Money gone and loan forgiven.
Posted by mrgreenpants
paisaland
Member since Mar 2018
1421 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 6:09 am to
this is how guidance we've received..

quote:

I think it will end up being pretty simple..... with 24 weeks to spend - everyone will be forgiven and have experience sea way over (I would suspect)




@8 weeks to spend.. we'd expected to repaying 10-20%.
@24 weeks.. 100% of it would have long been used for payroll
Posted by NewBR
Member since Sep 2008
768 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:59 am to
But the amount of payroll forgiveness is still capped at $15,385 per employee - - whether over 8 weeks or 24 weeks.

Regardless, even if some of it's not forgiven, it's at 1% for 5 years.
Posted by Drunken Crawfish
Member since Apr 2017
3822 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 10:03 am to
quote:

I think they will eventually just say, if you borrowed less than $250k, you’re automatically forgiven.


I read somewhere that almost half of the loans were under $150K. That wouldn't surprise me and would seem to make everything significantly easier.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16284 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 12:37 pm to
There will be exceptions like my company. We were probably over staffed and our sales still have not recovered (we're doing about 40% of our 2019 sales). We found ourselves doing everything we could to hold onto good employees even when the work didn't justify it. Had 2 occasions last year where we were hiring 1 person for a job and really liked 2 candidates so we just hired them both.

Our issue will be we cannot justify bringing back 100% of our staff due to the decreased sales. At most, we are looking at 87% of prior staff. We are currently sitting at 80% and have everyone working 34-37 hours a week and just paying them 40.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20386 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

have everyone working 34-37 hours a week and just paying them 40


But why? You can't have anyone work on business development, updates, or anything like that?
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16284 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 3:37 pm to
It's a little more difficult in a blue collar environment. There is only so much the shop hand in Shipping & Receiving can do outside of shipping & Receiving. The floor can only be swept so many times, inventory can only be reorganized so many times....

Plus, it kills morale when you have skilled workers constantly doing menial tasks, just to work the clock.
Posted by Nappy
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2005
133 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 7:31 pm to
AICPA has a spreadsheet calculator that helps. With the 24 week extension, most should be able to be fully forgiven.
first pageprev pagePage 1 of 1Next pagelast page
refresh

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram