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The PPP loan forgiveness process is going to be a cluster
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:33 pm
Sitting in on a webinar on how to fill out the PPP loan forgiveness application. This is going to be a nightmare trying to calculate all of this data. Be sure to get your CPAs on speed dial.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:39 pm to Drunken Crawfish
Them Baws in DC can and will continue changing the rules, total shite show.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:41 pm to Drunken Crawfish
Our firm helped one of the big banks process these. To be fair, the protocol was process the loans and we'll figure it all out later. What were they supposed to do, people needed the money
This post was edited on 6/10/20 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:52 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
It looks like y'all are going to be busy on this back end too. Its going to suck for these companies trying to get all of these forms filled out, but its going to be even worse for the banks to vet everything.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:55 pm to Drunken Crawfish
As of now, our bank won't allow us to submit for Loan forgiveness simply because they know that the rules will change 100x before it's over.
Similar to how it was to originally get the PPP money.
Similar to how it was to originally get the PPP money.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 3:05 pm to ROUSTER
I think it will end up being pretty simple..... with 24 weeks to spend - everyone will be forgiven and have experience sea way over (I would suspect)
Posted on 6/10/20 at 3:30 pm to Drunken Crawfish
Use the money for payroll , employee healthcare insurance and utilities...you should be solid.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 3:42 pm to Drunken Crawfish
We just sent all our stuff over to the CPA to see how much we have left to spend.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 4:08 pm to igoringa
I think they will eventually just say, if you borrowed less than $250k, you’re automatically forgiven.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 8:30 pm to OTIS2
That’s what we did. Five pay periods. Two group health insurance payments. Money gone and loan forgiven.
Posted on 6/11/20 at 6:09 am to igoringa
this is how guidance we've received..
@8 weeks to spend.. we'd expected to repaying 10-20%.
@24 weeks.. 100% of it would have long been used for payroll
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I think it will end up being pretty simple..... with 24 weeks to spend - everyone will be forgiven and have experience sea way over (I would suspect)
@8 weeks to spend.. we'd expected to repaying 10-20%.
@24 weeks.. 100% of it would have long been used for payroll
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:59 am to mrgreenpants
But the amount of payroll forgiveness is still capped at $15,385 per employee - - whether over 8 weeks or 24 weeks.
Regardless, even if some of it's not forgiven, it's at 1% for 5 years.
Regardless, even if some of it's not forgiven, it's at 1% for 5 years.
Posted on 6/11/20 at 10:03 am to TigerDeBaiter
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I think they will eventually just say, if you borrowed less than $250k, you’re automatically forgiven.
I read somewhere that almost half of the loans were under $150K. That wouldn't surprise me and would seem to make everything significantly easier.
Posted on 6/11/20 at 12:37 pm to igoringa
There will be exceptions like my company. We were probably over staffed and our sales still have not recovered (we're doing about 40% of our 2019 sales). We found ourselves doing everything we could to hold onto good employees even when the work didn't justify it. Had 2 occasions last year where we were hiring 1 person for a job and really liked 2 candidates so we just hired them both.
Our issue will be we cannot justify bringing back 100% of our staff due to the decreased sales. At most, we are looking at 87% of prior staff. We are currently sitting at 80% and have everyone working 34-37 hours a week and just paying them 40.
Our issue will be we cannot justify bringing back 100% of our staff due to the decreased sales. At most, we are looking at 87% of prior staff. We are currently sitting at 80% and have everyone working 34-37 hours a week and just paying them 40.
Posted on 6/11/20 at 2:17 pm to Weekend Warrior79
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have everyone working 34-37 hours a week and just paying them 40
But why? You can't have anyone work on business development, updates, or anything like that?
Posted on 6/11/20 at 3:37 pm to baldona
It's a little more difficult in a blue collar environment. There is only so much the shop hand in Shipping & Receiving can do outside of shipping & Receiving. The floor can only be swept so many times, inventory can only be reorganized so many times....
Plus, it kills morale when you have skilled workers constantly doing menial tasks, just to work the clock.
Plus, it kills morale when you have skilled workers constantly doing menial tasks, just to work the clock.
Posted on 6/11/20 at 7:31 pm to Drunken Crawfish
AICPA has a spreadsheet calculator that helps. With the 24 week extension, most should be able to be fully forgiven.
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