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re: So, who is buying?

Posted on 10/17/19 at 4:03 pm to
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 4:03 pm to
can barely understand any lingo your saying dude. I'm truly going to have to devote a weekend researching everything to determine my future investment strategy
Posted by thatguy777
br
Member since Feb 2007
2384 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 10:34 pm to
looking at a strangle on SNAP for earnings next week...
Posted by mrgreenpants
paisaland
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 7:06 am to
quote:

looking at a strangle on SNAP for earnings next week...


nooice...

that looks fun.
personally i would have kept that one on the downlow uptil you had your position..
(or maybe you're already in)

nlfx, roku, snap, fast.

those are my fav lotto cards
(no interest in holding...just quickie strangle plays)
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4078 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 11:38 am to
Well, he didn't mention if he was looking to go long or short the strangle or which strikes he was considering. Anyway, it's unlikely that his position would move the market either way... unless he's a whale. Course, ya never know.

In more general terms, it would be interesting to hear about some of the strangle/iron condor or straddle/iron butterfly strategies that people have found to be successful around earnings time. Long or short? Delta/probability levels? Minimum IV levels? If going short, are people getting in right before the announcement, when IV spikes, and then looking to get out the day after, once the IV crush tends to take the air out?
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 1:40 pm to
what does strangle mean dude

I see snap doing well today
Posted by thatguy777
br
Member since Feb 2007
2384 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 1:54 pm to
I was referring to a long strangle. You buy a put and a call with the same expiration hoping for the stock to move in a big way. Doesn’t matter which way, just needs to move

And to the previous poster I’m no whale, not yet at least haha
This post was edited on 10/21/19 at 1:56 pm
Posted by mrgreenpants
paisaland
Member since Mar 2018
1421 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:41 am to
pretty big earning day in a pretty big week...

$biib and $pg were both good

got nervous holding a short (naked put) position on $TSLA...close that this morning.

still got deep OTM $MSFT and $LMT puts open..i'd love to pick up both if they fall to me.



$BIIB had an implied movement of 5%...that mo-fo is up 35% right now.

$snap is still crazy expensive...it is expected to move 15%

still watching $IRBT.. will probably go long on a straddle right before closing.


Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18869 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:23 am to
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mrgreenpants
This is definitely TheBigFella, and he has been completely compromised by meme stocks and internet language.
Posted by mrgreenpants
paisaland
Member since Mar 2018
1421 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:20 am to
This post was edited on 10/23/19 at 9:37 am
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4078 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 6:07 pm to
quote:

how much time do you like to have before expirations?
do you strictly trade to volatility? ..or you want the time delay to?


Sorry. Didn’t see your post earlier.

It depends on the strategy. I’m primarily a seller of premium. For most non-earnings related strangles or iron condors (I don’t do many straddles), I’ll go out as far as 40-45 days and I look to take those off around 20 days or so... sooner if I reach a 60-70% profit target. Yep, you got it, I want theta decay on the short legs without the gamma risk of expirations week on those.

For naked puts or calls, and some basic credit spreads, I trade a lot of weekly contracts, usually 7-10 days out. Those I prefer to let run til the end. I’ll only take them off if things get silly or I’m too close to ITM. Basically I sort by liquidity, then IV, then IV rank, then find the 20-25 delta (usually), then decide what strategy is appropriate for that ticker based on some simple technicals (monthly for trend and 5 minute to set up the trade).

I enjoy hearing what other people do, especially those who use strategies different from my own. Like I said, I pretty much only sell premium, so as to have a firm idea of the deltas/probabilities of success. But as long as a person is methodical and rules based, lots of different strategies can work. Something about the many ways that cats can lose their fur or some such
Posted by mrgreenpants
paisaland
Member since Mar 2018
1421 posts
Posted on 10/25/19 at 9:45 am to
i'm similar(meaning my strategy...will depends)
long term/income trading:
going into earnings my preference is to go long on a simple straddle (a few weeks before)...then then sell either night before (pre-market announcements) or during day(for post market announcements)

@peak IV time i'll sell either naked puts/credits spreads/broken wing condors the same time i'm closing long positions.

broken wing= frequently i'll skip the short call position...or keep it at delta .05 (or less)

overal goal is to swing trade the highest quality dividend paying stocks.
options used to obtain at the best price possible..
usually i'm @ deltas 10-15..but will go ITM where i want the assignment.

high quality= similar to [link=(camslim)]https://www.investors.com/ibd-university/can-slim/[/link]... but much more importane given to return on equity

short term:
i scalp the SPY option on a 1m chart on the bigger volume/volatility days
(as long as i have fast reliable internet)
((long puts/calls only..trying to capture the waves of the big boys on a 1m chart))
occasionally i'll play the "lotto" on big moving options if the opportunity presents.. but that isnt regular
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4078 posts
Posted on 10/25/19 at 12:20 pm to
Very cool. Thanks for sharing that. When investing in equities, I also generally follow IBD rules/guidelines.

Have you ever listened to the Option Alpha podcast or gone to the site? Somewhat similar to the methodologies used at Tastytrade.

It’s all good.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26573 posts
Posted on 10/25/19 at 12:23 pm to
Options Alpha is good, it's all centered around premium selling. That is a good strategy if you have the capital and bankroll management skills
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4078 posts
Posted on 10/25/19 at 1:36 pm to
I’ve really gotten a LOT out of his emphasis on diversity of tickers (a shortcoming of mine, as I tend to go tech heavy), position sizing and overall portfolio allocation to options strategies. I enjoy the interviews with other traders too. The one with the CBOE market maker was VERY informative.

I’d advise anyone interested in options trading to go to Option Alpha and download the *free* Strategy Guide.

I’ve never given Kirk Du Plessis a red cent. But I feel like this guy has saved me and made me thousand$ over the years.
Posted by thatguy777
br
Member since Feb 2007
2384 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 7:08 pm to
Ended up just buying the nov 15 calls on snap. Prob won’t work out. Long nov Butterfly on GOOG 1300/1350/1400 and long calls on pins at 27. Got the MS long nov 46 calls still hanging. Looking good there

ETA. We should get an options thread going. Would love to bs with the traders on the board.
This post was edited on 10/27/19 at 7:11 pm
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