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Restricted stock units - tax question

Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:05 am
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7611 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:05 am
If one had received some restricted stock units over the period of a few years from his company and they were now fully available, what would be the tax implication on cashing in about $40k? It would be used for down payment on a house if that makes any difference. Would it be treated as any other stock sale or do different rules apply?
Posted by Socrates Johnson
Madisonville
Member since Apr 2012
2080 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 9:25 am to
I think they are taxed as income when they turn over to you, which it sounds like they already did. Did they sell a portion for this reason when converted? Have they gained value since converting? That's likely the tax you should concern yourself with.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
36996 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 10:01 am to
Did you file an 83B election to accelerate the recognition of income at the time of the grant?
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7611 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 11:29 am to
quote:

Did you file an 83B election to accelerate the recognition of income at the time of the grant?
I don't believe I did.
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7611 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 11:32 am to
quote:

Did they sell a portion for this reason when converted?
No, I don't believe so.
quote:

Have they gained value since converting?
Not anything earth shattering.
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
4447 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 12:02 pm to
Mine were taxed as regular income I believe
Posted by Socrates Johnson
Madisonville
Member since Apr 2012
2080 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

No, I don't believe so.


Then I think you'll be taxed on the income of the vesting, then capital gains on any gains since.
Posted by fiyahbyrd157
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2005
196 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 2:25 pm to
Restricted stock units can go one or two ways.

1.) They sell shares at the time of vesting to cover the tax burden. The total value (no. of shares vesting X price on that day) will be reported as income on your W2. Whatever value of shares they sold goes on your W2 as income tax paid. If you are under the SS tax limit at the time of vest they will take federal income tax, ss tax, and medicare tax and sell the number of shares required to cover it. Your cost basis is the price of the stock from the day it vested. When you go to sell the shares remaining, if it has been less than a year since vest any gains will be taxed as ordinary income. If over a year it will be taxed at the capital gains rate.

2.) The stocks vest and they sell no shares to cover the tax burden (you would have had to fill out a form for them to do this usually). At tax time the value of the vesting shares would have been reported as income on your W2 and you would be responsible for the entire tax burden. I doubt this happened or you would have known about it when you filed your taxes, especially if you have 40K worth. Same rules apply when selling for a gain, less than 1 year ordinary income tax rate. Over 1 year, capital gains rate.

#1 is by far the most common. I don't think it matters if the money will be used to buy a house, it is income just like any other.

Source: I've been receiving restricted stock grants for the past 9 years, sold a few, kept most. I'm not tax pro so if you still question consult a tax professional.
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