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re: Report: iPhone Sales Fail Triggered “Fire Drill” at Apple
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:27 pm to Street Hawk
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:27 pm to Street Hawk
Who'd have thought that people wouldnt line up every single day to buy $1000 phones?
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:44 am to kengel2
Apple will fix this by making new IOS software updates inoperable on older models/ turning “older” iPhones into bricks.
You can keep your old phone and keep your old software, but if you want to update you have to buy a new phone.
Apple already does this, but I can see them hunkering down and making it more intense
You can keep your old phone and keep your old software, but if you want to update you have to buy a new phone.
Apple already does this, but I can see them hunkering down and making it more intense
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:46 am to Street Hawk
Apple is acting like it’s some big deal dealing with creativity? LOL
You priced your phone at $1000. No one wants to pay that for a phone. It’s not worth it.
You priced your phone at $1000. No one wants to pay that for a phone. It’s not worth it.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:01 am to HYDRebs
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Agreed I think the rollout to 5g will help them crush their 2020 sales. Their services department is showing tremendous growth as well.
While no doubt the collab with Intel, and the two 5G Vendors (Nokia and Erricson) will help them give a better product in their 10nm soc design, the market is screaming, "We don't want to pay 1k+ for ANY phone."
The 5G NR Physical network is in place at the System Level. For most Erricson and Nokia products it was a simple hardware swap out of an already existing chassis.
The problem currently is dropped "calls" or data sessions at the higher frequencies. Therefore, the 700Mhz spectrum will be introduced first to give carriers a marketable service.
The real movement will be once the upper frequencies are within 99-100% confidence of not having dropped calls. Were not there yet.
We literally park a truck in our parking lot every day bouncing Upper 5G frequencies to get this right. The "26Ghz" band is the true next gen push.
700Mhz now, 3.5Ghz (in conjunction with LAA and CBRS) lagging behind, 26Ghz to set the world free.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 11:06 am to Azazello
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I'm still cruising with the 6 and it has worked great since the day I bought it. No plans to update anytime soon
Same here. I got mine in October 2014. Over 4 years old. Battery life isn't as good, it's somewhat sluggish, and yeah the camera isn't as good as the later models. But the phone works well enough for me and I'm not going to spend $800-$1000 for a new one any time soon
Posted on 12/6/18 at 2:48 pm to kywildcatfanone
Until 3 weeks ago, I was rocking the Iphone4. My wife bought the family IphoneXs............ 
My 4 was great, she complained she could never reach me.
My 4 was great, she complained she could never reach me.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 3:06 pm to Street Hawk
Time for earnings
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:31 am to Street Hawk
I think Apple is moving more toward subscription services. (iPod sales are certainly not what they used to be are they?)
I think they are going to do a lot more in the health area with their watches and phones. It would not surprise me that they actually market data to health insurance companies somehow. Your health insurer may give you a discount if you wear an Apple watch that transmit data on the EKG feature from time to time to your doctor or something like that.
I think they are still ahead of the curve in their thinking.
People just aren't changing phones as often as they used too.
I think they are going to do a lot more in the health area with their watches and phones. It would not surprise me that they actually market data to health insurance companies somehow. Your health insurer may give you a discount if you wear an Apple watch that transmit data on the EKG feature from time to time to your doctor or something like that.
I think they are still ahead of the curve in their thinking.
People just aren't changing phones as often as they used too.
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 10:34 am
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:54 am to 50_Tiger
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26Ghz to set the world free.
Hopefully more safety testing is done before we get to that point.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:55 pm to notsince98
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Hopefully more safety testing is done before we get to that point.
Without going into massive detail (NDA)
26Ghz will be used in short range applications starting out. Oddly enough, I have not read any documents on massive exposure at that operating frequency. I dont know the operating frequencies of pacemakers, etc. but we are pushing forward as if that is no concern.
mmWave is the real money maker here. The 600Mhz/2.5Ghz band is just a taste
Any carrier who advertises mmWave end to end is lying to you.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 6:55 am to Street Hawk
Seems every time someone here proclaims the decline of Apple Apple proceeds to double in value over the next year.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 7:14 am to TulaneLSU
I use it as a contrarian indicator.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 8:51 am to fallguy_1978
ETA totally missed this bump
I think this is partly true. The other part is the phones are just better than they were even a few years ago. That said, very few people are paying $900 at one time. The carriers are effectively subsidizing the phone by providing interest free loans on the phone (which also has the effect of tying most people to the carrier until paid off). They also frequently run 2 for 1 and other similar promotions. With all of this, I think the quality of the phones, and the minor nature of most upgrades, is the biggest factor.
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Yep. People see the 1k price tag on some of these phones and decide to keep what they've got for awhile longer.
I think this is partly true. The other part is the phones are just better than they were even a few years ago. That said, very few people are paying $900 at one time. The carriers are effectively subsidizing the phone by providing interest free loans on the phone (which also has the effect of tying most people to the carrier until paid off). They also frequently run 2 for 1 and other similar promotions. With all of this, I think the quality of the phones, and the minor nature of most upgrades, is the biggest factor.
This post was edited on 11/8/19 at 8:53 am
Posted on 11/8/19 at 9:00 am to BearCrocs
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Apple will fix this by making new IOS software updates inoperable on older models/ turning “older” iPhones into bricks.
Sub in iPad and that is my situation. I currently have 2 that are getting more and more useless with each week.
As for phones, I refuse to pay 1k for a phone unless I absolutely have to. My wife was complaining the other day that we needed to upgrade our iphone 8's because her battery was going downhill fast. All it took was turning off all the apps that tracked her all the time and actually updating her phone.
I used to upgrade every 2 years but now I'll just ride until they die. If they came back down on prices I might consider every 2 years again but I don't see much of a point unless they make some major changes in features (not camera).
Posted on 11/8/19 at 11:19 am to I B Freeman
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I think they are still ahead of the curve in their thinking.
I think there is still a lot of opportunity to expand cell phone usage into areas like TV watching/streaming, computing, gaming and healthcare. People are using their cellphones for a lot of these things already but I wouldn't say that cell phones are optimized yet for these functions.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 3:23 pm to buckeye_vol
And Apple's services are, so far, pretty effective at padding the bottom line with good growth.
Posted on 11/9/19 at 10:38 am to RoyalWe
Their 5G phone next year will drive the next round of mass-purchasing.
Posted on 11/9/19 at 12:00 pm to Upperdecker
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You’re not their target audience. The target audience are teenagers, young to middle aged women, and tech geeks. It’s a pretty small audience, but one that generally has enough money to scrap together for a new phone every year
Every time I think Apple is "done" I will end up going to a Apple store for some reason, see the crowd, and buy more stock.
Posted on 11/10/19 at 2:29 pm to EA6B
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Every time I think Apple is "done" I will end up going to a Apple store for some reason, see the crowd, and buy more stock
What are all those people doing in there anyways?
Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:56 am to lsujro
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That said, very few people are paying $900 at one time. The carriers are effectively subsidizing the phone by providing interest free loans on the phone (which also has the effect of tying most people to the carrier until paid off). They also frequently run 2 for 1 and other similar promotions.
My daughter was finally of age to get a phone and I went to get her and my wife a new one on the 2-1 deal and AT&T wouldn't let me pay for it up front. I had to do the monthly payments for 2 years to get the 2-1 deal. Price was the same (interest free) so all I can assume is they want you locked in on a contract and figure you won't notice the $20 drop after 2 years and will just upgrade instead?
It really confuses me when there is no discount for paying up front. Same thing at the orthodontist. I can pay $5k today or break that down into 24 payments and it is the same. Why do they not offer an incentive to get their money on the front end?
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