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Question for the financial guys re Roth IRA

Posted on 8/20/20 at 8:50 pm
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
7951 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 8:50 pm
I have a question about Roth IRAs. I’ve been contributing to my ira for about 6 years now, and bc I’m so far away from retirement (mid 30s), I never look at my statements. Well on a whim today bc I’ve heard about how great the market has recovered from Covid, i decided to Log in and see what my account looked like. I was kinda surprised that I was down 347 dollars ytd. So I got to exploring around my account and wanted to see what it’s done over the life of my account. After looking forever to see if I can find a ytd or 3 yr or 5 yr outlook I couldn’t so I started looking back at old statements. I realized that over the last 3 years I’ve lost over 900 dollars. I don’t know much about all this except i feel like I could have just put that money in my savings and made more on the shitty Intrest it draws. Does this seem reasonable? With the growth in the market I would have thought for sure that I would have made money overall. Should I ask my advisor what’s up, or let it ride?
This post was edited on 8/20/20 at 8:51 pm
Posted by lsewwww
Member since Feb 2009
376 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 9:02 pm to
Something is very wrong.
What is the money in? For example, Vanguard automatically puts contributions in a money market paying like 1% annual. (est). If you want it to grow, you then need to trasnfer/buy /transact into something more "growy" like VTSAX or VTBLX. Many other mutual funds you can purchase and Fidelty has some good ones.
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9766 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 9:05 pm to
Should I ask my advisor what’s up, or let it ride?
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You should ask your EX-advisor WTF happened.
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
7897 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 9:06 pm to
quote:

I could have just put that money in my savings and made more on the shitty Intrest it draws.


correct

quote:

Does this seem reasonable?


No. I'm obviously wrong, but it seems like the shittiest fund in the world couldn't have lost money in the last three years. What are you invested in?
Posted by lsewwww
Member since Feb 2009
376 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 9:08 pm to
For gods sake dont let it ride! You've lost like 12% annual gains plus the compounding over the years. If you maxed out the IRA thats 5 years at 5500 and 1 year at 6k, thats a 33,500 principal that should be up to about 39k if it had been in VTSAX.
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
7951 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 9:08 pm to
Looks like my most shares are in govt, spab, spyv, iau, and some others that say Ishares.
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9766 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 9:11 pm to
Switch them all over to QQQ. Technology is the future.

LINK
This post was edited on 8/20/20 at 9:14 pm
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
7951 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 9:14 pm to
I do have 3 shares of QQQ
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72448 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 9:16 pm to
who is your advisor? please do not tell me EJ.
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
7951 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 9:20 pm to
Nm
This post was edited on 8/21/20 at 6:02 pm
Posted by lsewwww
Member since Feb 2009
376 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 9:21 pm to
Looking at those funds. spyv is not looking so good, but your fees must be astronomical
Posted by HarveyBanger
Member since Mar 2018
1100 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 9:50 pm to
I feel bad for you man. Some one is screwing you bigly.
Posted by UpstairsComputer
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2017
1567 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 10:25 pm to
You gotta call and see what's up. You should definitely be doing better than that.
Posted by indytiger
baton rouge/indy
Member since Oct 2004
9823 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 10:49 pm to
What should someone expect on an IRA or 401k YTD balance, not including this years contributions?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35284 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 10:49 pm to
Why are you in so many value funds and bonds??

Can you FA and put it all in vtsax
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
7951 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 4:21 am to
I have no idea man. I’m going to look more into it today. I’m kinda pissed at this point that i feel I missed out on all the good growth the market has seen. I coulda used that money to buy all apple or something and been better off.
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11665 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 6:31 am to
I'm 95% VTSAX & 5% Vanguard Admiral Bonds in my 401k.

YTD: 7.82%
3mos: 13.81%
12mos: 18.83%

To say you've lost out big time and are getting screwed is an understatement. Why do you have an advisor? Educating yourself and investing for yourself is the easiest thing on earth. Especially if you want to do simple indexing for the next 30 years. Are you managing millions yet? If not, you should be handilinf your Roth and 401k investments.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35284 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 9:32 am to
In my IRAs I'm 80% VTSAX and 20% VUG


Across all accounts I'm probably 60% VTSAX, 38% various growth etfs and 2% bonds. I'm in my early 30s
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17473 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 1:41 pm to
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I never look at my statements.

Well there's your problem.


Bet you change this behavior.


quote:

I realized that over the last 3 years I’ve lost over 900 dollars.

What?! You think your advisor doesn't need to eat?

In all seriousness and obviousness, yes ask your advisor what his annual food budget is, and if he only takes from you. Move. Now.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36105 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 2:46 pm to
You don't need an advisor.

If you become very wealthy someday you might need a tax advisor but it is very unlikely an investment advisor's fees will pay for themselves. You can probably see proof of that when you finally do your due diligence and see how much money this one stole from your retirement.

For similar reasons managed funds do not out earn index funds. And index funds rather than stocks are what you should probably buy
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