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Price of Building a House

Posted on 8/9/18 at 6:21 pm
Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 6:21 pm
I am getting a large variance of numbers in my research.

We have a house in Old Metairie that we are looking to bulldoze and build.

Have about 100k in equity due to paying down our 20 year home loan early. About 30-40k more in what I understand to be built in equity (i.e. the house has risen in value that much and I would appraise at that much more).

I have cash on hand as well.

We are looking to build a high quality, 2 story house. 2600-3000 sq feet. Wood floors, granite counters, built ins, etc.

I would like a covered grilling area in back too.

How much is reasonable per square foot to budget? I am reading everything from 125-175.

I have a 3.75% rate now. Should I expect a lot more for a construction loan?

I am trying to get a grip of whether a build is worth the hassle or is it better to buy in the area and sell my house. Our budget and homes we are looking at is 600-750.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 6:28 pm to
quote:

About 30-40k more in what I understand to be built in equity (i.e. the house has risen in value that much and I would appraise at that much more).


That's it? Are you building less square footage than you currently have? Your new house is gonna be valued at $250/sqft at least.

ETA: I think I misinterpreted. You're saying your house has apprecitaed in value that much since you bought. Using your estimated construction cost, you're going to gain $75-$125 for every foot you build. If you can afford the build, I say it's worth the headache.
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 6:37 pm
Posted by Breadcrumbs
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
2982 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 6:31 pm to
quote:

Have about 100k in equity due to paying down our 20 year home loan early. About 30-40k more in what I understand to be built in equity (i.e. the house has risen in value that much and I would appraise at that much more).



I don't understand this part. Is this equity in ANOTHER house, not the Old Metairie house?
Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
19653 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 6:31 pm to
More.

Total equity I can borrow against is about 135k if home was re-appraised. Ample more cash on hand.

Bigger than current.

I was planning on putting 30+% down on homes ww were considering buying new.
Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
19653 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 6:32 pm to
I think I clarified. Sorry I didnt phrase that well.

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162190 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 6:33 pm to
quote:



I don't understand this part. Is this equity in ANOTHER house, not the Old Metairie house?


I think what he's just saying it in a rather odd way

He has 100K in equity based on original purchase price and home has increased in value by 30 to 40K
Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
19653 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 6:51 pm to
Yes. My bad.
Posted by Breadcrumbs
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
2982 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:04 pm to
I'm slow. Presumably the existing house has some value. If you demolish the existing house, you are destroying that value. I don't understand how the equity in the old house translates into equity toward the new house?

I would sell the house that has value and buy a new house. Otherwise, it appears to me you are not utilizing the equity in the old house if you destroy it.

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ETA: 3000 sq ft x $175 build cost = $525,000. House would need to be worth $655,000 for you to still have $130,000 equity. How likely is that?


if you bought a $655,000 house and put $130,000 down you'd finance $525,000
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 7:21 pm
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:11 pm to
If you want serious quality, the upper end of your range is likely.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:40 pm to
quote:

3000 sq ft x $175 build cost = $525,000. House would need to be worth $655,000 for you to still have $130,000 equity. How likely is that?

3000 sqft new construction in Old Metairie is gonna be at least $700k. Most likely a decent bit more.
Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
19653 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:19 pm to
Yes. 700-750k
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:14 pm to
Find a GC that doesn’t specialize in old metairie. Old metry construction means top dollar
Posted by geauxnc0308
pineywoods of ET
Member since May 2008
536 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 5:38 am to
Is the current home paid off? If so, is the lot without the house worth $140K?
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30542 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:44 am to
You’re gonna end up paying more than $175/sqft if you’re getting the quality you want
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25396 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:55 am to
What do you anticipate the footprint of the new dwelling being? Is the current house on slab or crawl. What is preference for new dwelling?

Windows - Vinyl, PVC Cellular, Wood, Aluminum Clad? How many?

Roof - 30 year arch shingle or metal, simple pitch or
complex?

Soffits/Fascia - cement fiber or vinyl?

Insulation - Batt, Cell, Foam?

House Wrap- Brick, Cement Fiber, Vinyl?

Cabinets - PreFab, Semi Custom, Full Custom?

Appliances - Closer to Frigidire or Wolf/Sub Zero?

Trim Package - Solid or Hollow core doors? Baseboard height, Crown size, ceiling/wall treatments? Custom closets with built ins vs wire shelving. Pantry

Master bath details (freestanding vs tile surround tub, shower drop in vs tile surround, frameless glass shower door, marble, ceramic, porcelian)?

secondary bath details (drop in tub shower combo, tub/tile surround, shower only)?

Wood floors throughout or carpet in bedrooms?

As far as rate, the 3's are gone. You are looking at around 5%-5.25% for interest portion of construction loan and once converted to permanent looking at 4.75.4.875. By the time you convert if anything I would anticipate rates tick up, BICBW.

The safe play is to buy and lock rate, but i'm a custom guy as well so I fully understand.





Posted by PLaneTiger
Member since Jun 2014
863 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 11:07 am to
Is the $/sqft cost including the demolition of the older house?
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25396 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

Is the $/sqft cost including the demolition of the older house?


I'd guess not, but tearing down a small house is relatively inexpensive vs scope of project (7k-10k)
Posted by mikie421
continental shelf
Member since Nov 2008
687 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 2:42 pm to
I think some people don’t understand old Metairie. This is where people tear down a 300k-500k house to build something much more expensive.
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
25726 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 4:09 pm to
I would look at a flat fee builder where you act as the GC on paper. It’s more work for you but you are going to be looking at 175k/sq ft or more if not. I know a partnership that does this for higher end houses throughout the city.
Posted by whatshisface
Westside
Member since Jun 2012
272 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 4:12 pm to
I built my house in the Baton Rouge area in 2016. I was the GC and there was no labor cost to install the electrical. We selected mid-upper finishes, nothing super high end, and spend $122/sf. The contracted number I heard last year, from friends who built was around $165.

Since 2016, building material cost have risen, and I would suspect the area and type of home your building will be higher than my cost. These cost are for just construction of the home and driveway, no land or demo.
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