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Our company switched to Paychex for payroll and 401K -- need help or suggestions

Posted on 5/4/18 at 4:07 pm
Posted by LSUvegasbombed
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2013
15464 posts
Posted on 5/4/18 at 4:07 pm
So we switched to Paychex recently. My 401K is currently 100% enrolled into "American Funds 2050 Target Rate Retirement 3" which is where they automatically distributed it.

It sounds like Paychex sucks in general regarding 401K options based off of what I read. There really is not a whole lot of options to distribute your money in.

I wish I knew this stuff better but I dont unfortunately. I am 34 and feel like just keeping 100% into the 2050 target rate option is dumb.

Any suggestions for a rookie like me of how to distribute my retirement?

Does anyone else use Paychex?




Posted by juice4lsu
Member since Dec 2007
3695 posts
Posted on 5/4/18 at 4:16 pm to
Am. Funds Target dates are actually very solid. In fact they perform about 200 basis points above their closest competition annually. I'm your age, and if it was my account I would go a bit further out on the risk curve to 2055 or maybe even 2060.

If you don't have a good a la carte menu, the American Funds Target dates are excellent.
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 5/4/18 at 4:26 pm to
The 2050 Fund is 85% stocks and 15% bonds.

Age 34 - perfect.

Age 40 - 20% bonds

Age 45 - 25% bonds

Age 50 - 30% bonds

Age 55 - 35% bonds

Age 60 - 40% bonds

Age 70 - 50% bonds.

Posted by LSUvegasbombed
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2013
15464 posts
Posted on 5/4/18 at 4:34 pm to
i assumed it was a terrible option -- i thought the "all in one" packages were terrible options and you wanted to personally distribute your funds
Posted by sneakytiger
Member since Oct 2007
2471 posts
Posted on 5/4/18 at 5:21 pm to
I could be wrong but I think target date funds are generally just a fund of funds. They may charge a tad more in fees than if you had just bought the underlying funds, but you are paying for the convenience of not having to rebalance the fund weights as you move forward in time.
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40349 posts
Posted on 5/4/18 at 5:36 pm to
Yes that’s exactly what it is. It’s a solid option, especially for someone who doesn’t plan to be active.
This post was edited on 5/4/18 at 5:37 pm
Posted by LSUJML
BR
Member since May 2008
45058 posts
Posted on 5/4/18 at 6:09 pm to
We have Paychex but our 401k is through Wells Fargo
The money gets taken out of our check & somehow goes to Wells Fargo
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/4/18 at 7:42 pm to
quote:

The money gets taken out of our check & somehow goes to Wells Fargo
That's crazy
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
15719 posts
Posted on 5/5/18 at 12:44 am to
That’s not that crazy. I work for a Fortune 500 company and my stock goes to a Wells Fargo account.
Posted by Serraneaux
South of 30a
Member since Mar 2014
19548 posts
Posted on 5/5/18 at 7:52 am to
That’s pretty standard. Most companies use the an actual retirement benefit company like fidelity, Tiaa cref or vanguard as their retirement platform since they can provide their own funds at a better cost. Most likely paychex and other payroll platforms have a better price but are limited on fund selection since they are likely only offering one family of funds.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162189 posts
Posted on 5/5/18 at 8:03 am to
quote:

That’s pretty standard. Most companies use the an actual retirement benefit company like fidelity, Tiaa cref or vanguard as their retirement platform since they can provide their own funds at a better cost.

I was about to say I thought that seemed pretty normal

The 2 401K plans I've had were through ING and The Principal
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/5/18 at 8:35 am to
Sarcasm, people
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 10:38 am to
quote:

It sounds like Paychex sucks in general regarding 401K options based off of what I read. There really is not a whole lot of options to distribute your money in.


My wife had paychex for her 401k. Her options weren't that terrible. I just selected the lowest fees, and then reallocated other retirement funds to balance

They moved it to ADP though. What is cool is that they asked me to help select the funds (small business), and they actually followed up on my advice.

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