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Options for after maxing 401K and Roth?
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:36 pm
Subject says it all. Any advice would be appreciated. Looking for options. TIA
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:44 pm to kciDAtaE
Personal opinion, if you are maxing 401k and Roth I would be buying income generating property or saving to buy income generating property
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:45 pm to kciDAtaE
You can start yourself a stock account and buy as much stock as you want.
I have a TD Ameritrade account (was scottrade), but they have etrade and a bunch others.
Do some research and start investing. You can invest as much as you want
I have a TD Ameritrade account (was scottrade), but they have etrade and a bunch others.
Do some research and start investing. You can invest as much as you want
Posted on 1/29/19 at 9:11 pm to Mr.Perfect
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Personal opinion, if you are maxing 401k and Roth I would be buying income generating property or saving to buy income generating property
That’s been my focus as of late. My background is CM degree at LSU and spent years building/renovating residential construction. However, I live in a relatively new city now and need some time understanding the the local market. Looking for options until I feel prepared.
I tend to act slow with my money. I’d rather miss an opportunity than make a wrong opportunity. That my personality.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 7:57 am to kciDAtaE
Open a regular brokerage account and invest some money you can use before you're old. If you have kids, you could start investing for their college (529, UTMA, etc.).
Posted on 1/30/19 at 8:58 am to kciDAtaE
Before you do anything else, plan a nice vacation.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:21 am to kciDAtaE
Max your HSA account if you have one.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:26 am to kciDAtaE
Assuming that your 401k and Roth are index funds and other market securities, I would diversify into other asset classes.
I am in the same boat and have been putting money into Fundrise to gain more RE exposure.
I am in the same boat and have been putting money into Fundrise to gain more RE exposure.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:42 am to kciDAtaE
If you are eligible (have a high deductible health plan), open an HSA. It’s triple-tax free. Healthcare costs will make up a significant chunk of costs in retirement. And if I’m not mistaken, you can use it for non healthcare related costs after 65.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:52 am to EhSeeJay
you have income that makes you eligible for a roth, but are still able to max both out? Kudos sir
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:00 am to nolaks
He may be contributing through the back door which has no income limits.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 12:09 pm to kciDAtaE
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maxing 401K
Maxing 401k as in you plan to contribute $19k or maxing just up to the employer match?
If you are maxing $19k a year and $6k into the roth then I would look at a taxable investment account, real estate, REITs, 529s, HSA (if available).
Also take a nice vacation as well :) your doing well.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 1:33 pm to EhSeeJay
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He may be contributing through the back door which has no income limits.
well then I suggest he consider whether he plans to retire early, and if so consider how the gap period between normal retirement age and desired retirement age will be funded. my choice would not be more stuck in a retirement fund.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 1:54 pm to kciDAtaE
Read "The 3 Fund Portfolio" and/or Rick Ferri's Core 4 portfolio books, buy tax efficient vanguard index funds in a taxable account and check back in 25 years for your millions.
You seem young and successful, I'd start with 80% total stock market index, plus your choice of allocation among total Bond and total international indexes for the remaining 20%, maybe add REITs or small cap if you feel like it. There's essentially no risk of underperforming with an index strategy versus trying to pick stocks.
Don't waste your time on rental properties, their return is lower, the headaches are greater and their limited tax benefit gets phased out pretty quickly if you're a high earner, which you appear to be. I'm sure I'm sure I'll be shouted down on TD but the reality of arithmetic, historical returns and tax regulations don't lie.
Plus, index funds don't call you after 8 PM on a weeknight to unclog an AC drain line while you're reading to your kids. They pay you dividends every quarter, they're liquid and tax efficient, require no maintenance and have only increased in value over the long term.
I say this as a someone who is selling my 2 remaining rental properties to buy index funds. When I realized the dividends and long term appreciation on the equity from the sales would exceed the positive cash flow per property, without the uncertainty of maintenance & operating expenses, I decided it would be foolish to keep the rentals. If I have to replace an AC or make a major repair, the rental profits are nearly gone, but that will never happen with an index fund.
You seem young and successful, I'd start with 80% total stock market index, plus your choice of allocation among total Bond and total international indexes for the remaining 20%, maybe add REITs or small cap if you feel like it. There's essentially no risk of underperforming with an index strategy versus trying to pick stocks.
Don't waste your time on rental properties, their return is lower, the headaches are greater and their limited tax benefit gets phased out pretty quickly if you're a high earner, which you appear to be. I'm sure I'm sure I'll be shouted down on TD but the reality of arithmetic, historical returns and tax regulations don't lie.
Plus, index funds don't call you after 8 PM on a weeknight to unclog an AC drain line while you're reading to your kids. They pay you dividends every quarter, they're liquid and tax efficient, require no maintenance and have only increased in value over the long term.
I say this as a someone who is selling my 2 remaining rental properties to buy index funds. When I realized the dividends and long term appreciation on the equity from the sales would exceed the positive cash flow per property, without the uncertainty of maintenance & operating expenses, I decided it would be foolish to keep the rentals. If I have to replace an AC or make a major repair, the rental profits are nearly gone, but that will never happen with an index fund.
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 1/30/19 at 4:13 pm to GoIrish02
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GoIrish02
This guy gets it. I do not understand the love for rental properties on this board.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 4:38 pm to GoIrish02
Thanks to all. Some good advice for me to research. To answer a few questions, I have no debt other than my mortgage. Also no kids so my expenses are very low. I’m putting as much as I can in retirement while I am in this situation.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 8:02 pm to GoIrish02
Finally some sanity prevails
Max HSA is the other main one but that’s only $3500 as a single person.
Personal taxable account is really the next option and it gives you some tax strategy flexibility in the future with you retirement accounts which is an “unintended” benefit.
Max HSA is the other main one but that’s only $3500 as a single person.
Personal taxable account is really the next option and it gives you some tax strategy flexibility in the future with you retirement accounts which is an “unintended” benefit.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 8:05 pm to kciDAtaE
What’s your mortgage interest rate?
If it’s in the 3s/low 4s then make it last as long as possible. If you have a higher rate, then you could consider paying down your mortgage.
Assume you file standard deduction under the new tax code?
If it’s in the 3s/low 4s then make it last as long as possible. If you have a higher rate, then you could consider paying down your mortgage.
Assume you file standard deduction under the new tax code?
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:07 pm to kciDAtaE
There's nothing at all wrong with a simple taxable equities account, just don't day trade with your taxable account. Buy something like VTI and never sell just continue to add to it. Or VUG their growth fund so low dividends.
The beneficial part about investing in a taxable account is the money is available to you now, if you want to use it to pay off your house or whatever in 2 years.
The beneficial part about investing in a taxable account is the money is available to you now, if you want to use it to pay off your house or whatever in 2 years.
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 9:08 pm
Posted on 1/31/19 at 8:16 am to lynxcat
4.2% interest.
Last year initemized as it made more sense in my situation. I haven’t looked at it this year yet but I assume I will take the standard since of the increase.
Last year initemized as it made more sense in my situation. I haven’t looked at it this year yet but I assume I will take the standard since of the increase.
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