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Opening a Roth IRA at 70 years old

Posted on 6/11/21 at 5:17 pm
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
25714 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 5:17 pm
Advice for my dad who is semi retired and wants to invest some money that’s just sitting in the bank. Would you open up a Roth IRA and max it before putting money in a brokerage account? I know there is no age restriction to open one but you can’t take out earnings tax free unless the fund is open 5 years. Thoughts?
Posted by hob
Member since Dec 2017
2122 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 5:28 pm to
The only reason to do this would be for tax free growth to leave behind for beneficiaries.

Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18691 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 6:13 pm to
I don’t think there are required minimum distributions for a Roth, so if pops lives a while he could make use of it himself. Would benefit from the untaxed gains staying in there to make more money for him until he decided to withdraw and pay the piper.
Posted by Cajun Cricket
TN, AL, CO
Member since Mar 2016
197 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 6:14 pm to
I would ask whether or not he will need the money in his lifetime.

If so, I personally would just stick to a brokerage account. That would be the most efficient.

If he’s doing it for fun, a Roth is fine and obviously tax efficient for any trading he may do. No gains, income, k-1’s, etc.

If he’s doing it to maybe pass an inherited Roth down to someone as part of his estate, sure. That could be a feeling of purpose for him. I think inherited Roth’s can carry on for 10 years for a non-souse beneficiary. I may be wrong but I think RMD’s and life expectancy tables for inherited Roth beneficiaries no longer apply post 1/2020. I think you now just get 10 years and it needs to close.

Good luck to him!
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89445 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 9:21 pm to
I would talk to a professional. I would think tax free munis, or something like that would be better than a Roth depending on what his goals are.

I would assume he wants some return to beat inflation (which is looming for sure) but his risk tolerance is probably hella low.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42542 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 9:51 pm to
Just open a vanguard account and pick a fund he is familiar with. Utilities, tech, etc.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62678 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:28 pm to
Better than leaving extra money lying aroubd in taxable accounts.
Depends on what all he has. 5 years isn't that long, even for a 70 year old. He could live many years past 75 and a Roth would be advantageous
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84571 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

Would you open up a Roth IRA and max it before putting money in a brokerage account?


I am struggling to think of a single drawback to this idea given his age.
Posted by LSU in Frisco TX
In the Green
Member since Oct 2006
752 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:03 pm to
You have to have earned income to contribute to an IRA I believe.
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:49 pm to
He needs earned income to contribute new funds. If he has 401k he can rollovee those funds into an IRA and then backdoor a Roth but that would be a taxable event at the income level.
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
25714 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

am struggling to think of a single drawback to this idea given his age
This is what I’m thinking as well. He does have earned income but it’s not a lot and is also receiving about 2k in social security a month.
Thanks for the advice everyone.
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