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New Appraisal to remove PMI

Posted on 2/7/18 at 4:22 pm
Posted by LSU5508
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
3614 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 4:22 pm
Anyone have any knowledge on if increased value can allow you to rid your self of PMI. My thinking is this at the end of the year I should have a decent amount of cash on hand that will allow me to get to 20% regardless. However my rate is 3.25% so i'd rather not pay more than I have to as the money invested is worth more than the mortgage rate. As such i'm trying to determine what I need to set aside. I've had the house coming up on two years and I have made several upgrades. The neighborhood has appreciated a good bit as well. I'm wondering if I can put down say 50%-60% in cash and allow the increased appraised value to net myself to 20%. Any thoughts? Do mortgage companies allow this or is a refinance required. Under no circumstances am I refinancing with a 3.25% rate.
This post was edited on 2/7/18 at 4:23 pm
Posted by Wade Phillips
Member since Dec 2008
572 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 4:46 pm to
I'm not sure, and interested to know, from a timing perspective if anybody's bank has allowed them to order the new appraisal and then put up the remainder of the money to get to the 20% threshold. I know some banks allow you to pay for an approved appraisal through the bank, and have PMI dropped if you are in an equity position of 20%, but I'm assuming that's based on your equity at the time of request.
Posted by readysetgeaux
Member since Jun 2012
203 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 4:46 pm to
A few months ago I reached out to my mortgage lender as prices of homes in my area have risen in the last few years. I was told that PMI cancellation, based on current market value ONLY, requires 75% LTV to cancel PMI before 5 years. You mentioned you made several upgrades which will change things, but there are certain criteria you have to meet.

Call your lender to get the information and if you qualify you should just have to pay appraisal fee and will not be required to refinance.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51892 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 4:55 pm to
It doesn’t seem to apply considering the amount you are willing to put down, but you should be aware of one thing: this only works on conventional loans, and you should be able to simply reappraise without refinancing. Check lender terms. They might have weird requirements as well.

But if it is an FHA loan, you HAVE to refinance remove PMI.

You’ll still be paying PMI with a loan to value of 2%
This post was edited on 2/7/18 at 4:56 pm
Posted by Brian Wilson
Member since Mar 2012
2016 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 5:29 pm to
From my dealings with my mortgage holder, as soon as my mortgage meets these requirements I can have my home reappraised to have PMI removed.

-Loan has to be at least 2 years old
-2-5 years LTV has to be 75%
-5+ years LTV has to be 80%
-Appraisal cost is on the homeowner. My letter says this cost is typically ~$150.00 or may be higher if a full appraisal is required.

That being said, I did reach out to a GMFS rep about a year ago doing some refinancing research and she did tell me it was possible to refinance out of PMI under the right circumstances. She didn't elaborate further but I would imagine the most important thing would be making damn sure LTV would be under 80% otherwise refinancing for the purpose of removing PMI is pointless. Also I'm ignorant to all of the costs associated with refinancing so you'd have to figure out your break-even time frame to see if it's worth doing.

Contact your lender. I will reach 80% LTV this year and they sent me step by step instructions on how to do the process.
Posted by HYDRebs
Houston
Member since Sep 2014
1241 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 7:45 pm to
Haven’t even read the responses, but I’m sure they are a helpful. Honestly though the best response you are going to get is by calling the right number for whoever is servicing your loan and get their answer. Each bank will have a little different method and cost for appraisal. Also you are right refi’ing makes no sense in your case. To cancel PMI the loan must be seasoned for 2 years and have a good payment history
Posted by TigerGrad2011
Member since Aug 2016
1578 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 8:29 pm to
I reached out to my mortgage lender as well about removing PMI and I also could get it off with a new appraisal put the value at 75% without any substantial upgrades to the property. It was before 5 years so I am waiting a couple extra months to see if once we have had the property for 5 years they will take it off at 80% of new appraisal value.

Does anyone know if something changes at that 5 year mark? They wouldn’t answer any hypotheticals when I called them, and my mortgage is through Wells Fargo.
Posted by readysetgeaux
Member since Jun 2012
203 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 10:07 pm to
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If you’re requesting removal of your PMI based on natural increases in your property value between two and five years after your loan closes, both Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac require a new appraisal, and the LTV has to be 75% or less. If your removal request comes more than five years after your closing, the LTV can be 80% or less with a new appraisal. These requirements apply to insurance removal based on market value increases not related to home improvements.
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