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Lowest Cost Construction to Permanent Loan - Nola Area

Posted on 9/21/18 at 10:02 am
Posted by williejameshuft
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2012
158 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 10:02 am
My wife and I are beginning the process of building a new house and were wondering if the MT could recommend a construction to perm lender in the Nola area. The permanent loan will need to be a Jumbo 30-yr fixed. Maybe this is completely wrong but we figure there is little-to-no difference between lenders in terms of the services/process, so we're primarily looking for lenders with the lowest cost and best 30-year Jumbo rates. We both have 750+ credit scores and will be putting down 20%.

In full disclosure, I've seen past threads on this topic but they were from several years ago seem irrelevant today.

TIA and have a good weekend.

Posted by SLIMNOLA
NOLA
Member since Dec 2013
55 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 10:26 am to
Have you decided on your builder?

I just closed on my construction loan through Hancock Whitney and it was a one time close.
Posted by way_south
Member since Jul 2017
810 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 11:33 am to
How did the process go? We are listing our house after mardi gras and building on a 3.5 acre lot we paid off last year. I can't wait to live in an apartment for a half a year....
Posted by williejameshuft
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2012
158 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 11:41 am to
We haven't decided on a specific builder yet but do have a few we plan on talking to.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20386 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 11:52 am to
quote:

Jumbo 30-yr fixed


I'm guessing you have a great income, but how long have you guys lived together and how many houses have you lived in?

You are about to spend a lot of money on something it appears you don't really know a lot about. I am simply recommending to tread lightly. If you have never bought a home together you may consider buying one already built that is cheaper, then moving up in a couple of years.

Your decision may work out fantastic for you, I'm simply saying that building a home that expensive with what appears like not much experience is going to be very risky and educational.

Take your time here. Consider the APR not just the interest rate as the APR includes closing costs.

Posted by GoIrish02
Member since Mar 2012
1389 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 1:00 pm to
Fifth District Savings Bank, no question they're the best all around. Cost, personal underwriting, well established relationships with building inspectors and closing attorney to keep costs low on the 1 close program they've built over decades. They practically invented the 1 close program locally and can't be beat.

They are so good at it they routinely have to weed out "fake" buyers who are really other banking competitors employees trying to steal the details of the program.

We used the program a few years ago and were very happy. It was our third house, you have to show up with your plans and get your GC approved if they don't already know him.

No, the banks are not all the same in terms of loan products, rates, costs or the entire construction process. You're building a house, which is much more complex and personalized than buying a commodity (a traditional 30 year mortgage) for an existing house.

Also, please don't be one of those posters who think it would be wise to learn to GC their own house on the fly.

Edit: Consider using your equity in the lot in lieu of a cash down payment if you already own the lot. But rereading your post, it isn't clear if you already own your lot.
This post was edited on 9/21/18 at 1:06 pm
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25386 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 3:25 pm to
If you plan on buying some things outside the builders preferred vendors you may to make sure the lender can do more than 3-4 draws during the scope of the project to reimburse you when you purchase items.
Posted by williejameshuft
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2012
158 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 3:46 pm to
We currently live in a home we own and have been here for about 5 years. The amount of the loan does have me at least a little concerned but with the increased mortgage, tax and insurance payments our DTI ratio will be under 30% so we should be alright.

I'm somewhat familiar with the construction process, just not the lending side, which is why I made the OP asking for info from the MT's bona-fide construction lending experts! You seem to have some good, substantive information about the topic, please share.
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
4370 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 7:32 pm to
I am currently doing a one time close construction loan through GMFS. I shopped a bunch of local banks and they actually had the best deal once you consider only the one closing. I only have to pay for one appraisal, one set of title fee's, etc. Hancock Whitney has a similar loan but their origination was a good bit more than GFMS.

When I'm done with my construction, I call them and convert to permanent financing and prepay my escrows. Pretty damn simple.
Posted by Simon Gruber
Member since Mar 2017
833 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 8:39 pm to
Hancock whitney
Posted by Libertariantiger
Member since Nov 2012
981 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 9:18 pm to
I work at a building company and deal with banks a good bit.
The key that I'm glad to hear is that you have a down payment. Anything close to a jumbo, if you don't have a great downpayment, you get jacked on the interest rate. I saw one recently that couldn't find anything lower than 7% with 10% down on 500k with 750 credit and great income. So, the downpayment will be a big benefit to getting a great deal.
Hancock Whitney has a very good one time close program, but is hard to get approved and is picky about stuff. I find the fees to be a little high, but a good product.
SWBC is a mortage company that would require a construction lender, but has a good product and great fees. Their origination fee is under $1k where some places do 1%.
The best place I've ran across recently though is First Guaranty Bank. They have multiple branches and have the best rates. I had a customer recently bring them in for a mortage and it was a killer deal. I am trying to get set up with them now for more of my customers. They are based in Hammond, but have branches all over S. Lousiana. They do a one time that converts like Hancock Whitney, but better rates,fees, and conversion process.

You glossed over process, but understanding one time closings and how they switch over versus tradition construction then perm loans is a big deal. The one time closings have gotten very competitive in recent years and have came a long way. They all are a little different though as far as how the systems work. For construction lending you are seeing more and more one time closes.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20386 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 9:31 pm to
quote:

I'm somewhat familiar with the construction process, just not the lending side, which is why I made the OP asking for info from the MT's bona-fide construction lending experts! You seem to have some good, substantive information about the topic, please share


I've never built a house from scratch just reno'd a bunch.

I see a lot of young people eager to "build their dream house", and I just know that building a house is a lot of work and I really wouldn't recommend it to the first time home buyer. If you and your wife have some good experience as owners already then right on you have some very good ideas of what to expect.

I just didn't want you both to be young doctors right out of residency looking to drop a mil on her dream house without almost no home ownership experience. Good luck to you, lot of others here with better construction to ownership loan advice than I.
Posted by nolabuilder
Member since Jul 2016
68 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 6:33 am to
I build houses in the New Orleans area and refer all of my customers to Fifth District. Their rates have been lower on non-jumbo loans than anyone else in the area and they have a float down option at multiple stages in the process. Not sure how their jumbo rates compare to others but their loan process is simple and easy and you can lock-in at closing instead of when construction is complete.
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