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Long-term Disability Insurance - Educate Me
Posted on 4/29/18 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 4/29/18 at 8:47 pm
My employer provides a 50% coverage plan for 2 years are current role and then the definition of the role broadens dramatically [I think this is standard practice].
I'm looking into supplemental LT disability plans. What are the watch outs? What should I be looking for in a contract? What providers should I consider?
Pay for the inflation indexing?
Should the rate increase with age?
Target % of income that is 'normal'?
I know this is something I need to do to round out my financial house but this is the first time I've started really analyzing my options.
I'm looking into supplemental LT disability plans. What are the watch outs? What should I be looking for in a contract? What providers should I consider?
Pay for the inflation indexing?
Should the rate increase with age?
Target % of income that is 'normal'?
I know this is something I need to do to round out my financial house but this is the first time I've started really analyzing my options.
Posted on 4/29/18 at 9:52 pm to lynxcat
Get a non-cancellable policy with a true own occupation disability definition.
Posted on 4/30/18 at 11:07 am to lynxcat
Yes rate will increase with age. I had a LTD policy for years as a employee. Now I’m back to a sole proprietorship and i also need to look into getting my own policy now
Posted on 4/30/18 at 11:29 am to Fat Bastard
Non-cancellable policies have fixed rates.
Posted on 4/30/18 at 11:41 am to iknowmorethanyou
I need to look into those then. It definitely went up when I was an employee. Have to see what deals I can get now.
Posted on 4/30/18 at 4:12 pm to lynxcat
Work with someone who can put it through a few different carriers. Some carriers look at occupation classes differently. Your max benefit is going to be based off of a percentage of income. There are a bunch of different riders that can be put on the policy i.e., inflation, residual disability, future increase options. Just have it all quoted so you can see the difference in cost, and take what's important to you.
Posted on 4/30/18 at 4:46 pm to BigErn
I hate even saying this because it reminds me of starting with monthly price when buying a car....
The quotes I have so far are about $40/month. These have inflation protection and 65% of my current take home. Is there a range I should expect for a quality LT disability plan?
The plans get more complicated over the years where the premiums go up and then the dividends offset it. It’s a strange contract structure to me because it is out one pocket and into another. I assume there is a TVM float of the payments that I may not be considering...?
The quotes I have so far are about $40/month. These have inflation protection and 65% of my current take home. Is there a range I should expect for a quality LT disability plan?
The plans get more complicated over the years where the premiums go up and then the dividends offset it. It’s a strange contract structure to me because it is out one pocket and into another. I assume there is a TVM float of the payments that I may not be considering...?
This post was edited on 4/30/18 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 5/1/18 at 9:52 am to lynxcat
Ask for a non-cancellable quote instead of the guaranteed renewable you have received.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 10:05 am to lynxcat
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Is there a range I should expect for a quality LT disability plan?
Really just depends on a bunch of diff things. i.e, occupation, benefit, age, riders, carrier
quote:
the premiums go up and then the dividends offset it
Sounds like a northwestern quote. Is it?
Posted on 5/1/18 at 11:13 am to BigErn
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Sounds like a northwestern quote. Is it?
Yes, I have already told him that I want quotes from other providers as well.
It's a good friend and I'm happy to throw him a bone on this. LT disability is something I need but I need to get a lot smarter on the variables at play before making a decision.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 11:36 am to lynxcat
They quote the shite out of that increasing premium policy as opposed to their level one. They must make more off of it, or there is some incentive to convert it down the line.
Def get some other quotes, and make sure to understand the differences. Like I said, carriers price occupational classes differently. I've found, and this is nothing against your buddy, that with nw all they want to talk about is their company strength and ability to pay dividends. Not the contract itself, which is the most important part. There are some significant differences between contracts regarding things like partial disability, when calculating loss of time and loss of wages.
Def get some other quotes, and make sure to understand the differences. Like I said, carriers price occupational classes differently. I've found, and this is nothing against your buddy, that with nw all they want to talk about is their company strength and ability to pay dividends. Not the contract itself, which is the most important part. There are some significant differences between contracts regarding things like partial disability, when calculating loss of time and loss of wages.
This post was edited on 5/1/18 at 11:43 am
Posted on 5/1/18 at 1:26 pm to BigErn
Recommendations on other firms to get quotes from?
Appreciate the information
Appreciate the information
This post was edited on 5/1/18 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 5/1/18 at 11:36 pm to lynxcat
Own occupation, cost of living increases, and automatic increase options. I was able to increase my benefits after I went on disability. And paying premiums out of pocket with post-tax dollars makes your benefits tax-free.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:14 am to lynxcat
Guardian, in my opinion, is the best for attorneys and drs. Standard, Ohio National, and Principal are some others worth looking at. There are also some impaired risk carriers if there are issues.
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