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JPMorgan writes off $143mm margin loan to one customer

Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:12 pm
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:12 pm
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Did Jamie Dimon short bitcoin?

That’s pretty incredible.
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 2:22 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:24 pm to
From your link:
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mark-to-market loss of $143 million on a margin loan to a single client
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Did Jamie Dimon short bitcoin?
No.
quote:

That’s pretty incredible.
What is?
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:40 pm to
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Did Jamie Dimon short bitcoin?
No.
quote:
That’s pretty incredible.
What is?


Why be a diq ? He was joking about Jamie and a bank losing 143M on one person is incredible
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 2:16 pm
Posted by b-rab2
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:53 pm to
It was some south african home builder.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:56 pm to
And they still beat earnings
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 1:10 pm to
One client doesn’t mean one person.

It sounds like it was some organization.
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 1:10 pm
Posted by GaryMyMan
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 1:11 pm to
"If you owe the bank $100 that's your problem. If you owe the bank $100 million, that's the bank's problem." - J. Paul Getty
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 1:27 pm to
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Why be a do a?
I used to be a "do a" but I've changed since then.....
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He was joking about Jamie and a bank losing 143M on one person is incredible


No, he wasn't. He was saying the CEO of JPM shorted bitcoin. There's nothing in the link that says that.

In fact, the article discloses who the loan was made to: "a syndicated margin loan facility to related parties" of Steinhoff International.

According to wikipedia, "Steinhoff International is a South African international retail holding company that is dual listed in Germany. Steinhoff deals mainly in furniture and household goods, and operates in Europe, Africa, Asia, the United States, Australia and New Zealand.

On 6 December 2017, Steinhoff's CEO, Markus Jooste, resigned after Steinhoff's auditors refused to sign off on the audited financials as a result of reported accounting irregularities in its accounts. Certain fraud and corruption allegations are currently being investigated in Frankfurt by the German authorities. As a result of the resignation, Steinhoff's share price plummeted."

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So, obviously, certain related parties borrowed money from JPM to buy shares in Steinhoff International and after the Steinhoff CEO got caught cooking the books, the share price fell so much there was a margin call. The borrowers couldn't meet the call so JPM has written the loan down to reflect its collection value.

It's difficult to tell by reading this forum but not everything that happens in the financial world involves bitcoin.

In fact, very little of what happens in the financial world involves bitcoin. Just last week someone posted a story that said just under half of all bitcoins in the world are owned by fewer than a thousand people worldwide.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 1:29 pm to
It was a joke based on a thread a couple of weeks ago...
But yeah it should have read "did Steinhoff short Bitcoin"
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 1:31 pm
Posted by whodatigahbait
Uptown
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 1:48 pm to
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JPMorgan writes off $193mm margin loan to one customer


umm no they didn't.....it clearly states in the first couple of bullets.....

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"Equity markets revenue was flat compared to a strong prior year and included the impact of a mark-to-market loss of $143 million on a margin loan to a single client," J.P. Morgan said in its fourth-quarter release.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 2:17 pm to
It's fixed...it should read like DICK, you one eyed backdoor acceptor
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53151 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 2:28 pm to
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Equity markets revenue was flat compared to a strong prior year and included the impact of a mark-to-market loss of $143 million on a margin loan to a single client," J.P. Morgan said in its fourth-quarter release.


one single client

Goodness, what a tough fricking crowd today. I debated not making the bitcoin joke given the board composition lately, but it was clearly a joke, no I don’t think Jamie Dimon lost $143mm shorting bitcoin.

Yes, it’s incredible that a margin loan to a single client, as referenced by the article, kept their trading revenue flat YoY instead of a 12% increase.
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 2:29 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126942 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 2:28 pm to
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It's fixed...it should read like DICK, you one eyed backdoor acceptor


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