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Ilhan Omar pushes for new tax on stock trades amid GameStop frenzy

Posted on 2/1/21 at 6:41 pm
Posted by WPBTiger
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Posted on 2/1/21 at 6:41 pm
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Rep. Ilhan Omar called for a new tax on stock trades after a battle between an army of amateur investors and hedge funds caused a dramatic swing in the share price of GameStop and other heavily shorted companies, shaking Wall Street.


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A small tax - 0.1% - on each Wall Street trade would reduce high frequency trading, a practice which drains profits from retail investors and benefits only the very rich.

We could use the close to $1 trillion it would generate to cancel all student debt and make college free.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
9914 posts
Posted on 2/1/21 at 6:42 pm to
Well,
I’m sure this will go well for her...
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 2/1/21 at 6:43 pm to
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A small tax - 0.1% - on each Wall Street trade


frick her.

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make college free.


Well I do have two teens..
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/1/21 at 6:44 pm to
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A small tax - 0.1% - on each Wall Street trade

I saw this earlier and all I could think was 0.1% of what?
Posted by iAmBatman
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/1/21 at 6:46 pm to
Hate the tax or support it, it would tilt the scales more towards retail investors than they currently are.

HFT is a institution game and anything that impairs them would be a good thing for mom and pop investors
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/1/21 at 6:46 pm to
Anything that generates $1T in taxes is going to be a no for me.
Posted by iAmBatman
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Posted on 2/1/21 at 6:49 pm to
I would imagine 0.1% of the value of each trade
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 2/1/21 at 6:51 pm to
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I would imagine 0.1% of the value of each trade

That's what I was thinking

And it also sounds like a terribly stupid idea
Posted by iAmBatman
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Posted on 2/1/21 at 6:52 pm to
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And it also sounds like a terribly stupid idea


Why? Other than it’s a new tax
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 2/1/21 at 6:52 pm to
Guess I'd have to give it more consideration. You do make a good point about it likely having some positive benefit to retail investors.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 2/1/21 at 6:54 pm to
I knew this would happen when everyone were encouraged to continue the circus and “stick it to Wall Street.”
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/1/21 at 6:55 pm to
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Hate the tax or support it, it would tilt the scales more towards retail investors than they currently are.

HFT is a institution game and anything that impairs them would be a good thing for mom and pop investors



HFT is almost always institution vs institution. The material impact to the average investor is essentially nil, but I wouldn’t lose any sleep if it went away.
This post was edited on 2/1/21 at 6:56 pm
Posted by Ingeniero
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Posted on 2/1/21 at 6:56 pm to
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A small tax


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0.1% - on each Wall Street trade


Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40826 posts
Posted on 2/1/21 at 6:57 pm to
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would imagine 0.1% of the value of each trade


Damn let's just bring back flat fees instead.
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 2/1/21 at 6:57 pm to
When your solution to everything is to tax people.

You might be a socialist.




Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 2/1/21 at 6:59 pm to
One side of the mouth: we need to encourage middle and lower class people to save and invest responsibly

Other side of mouth: Let's tax people when they try to save and invest, effectively punishing the practice
Posted by iAmBatman
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:04 pm to
I’m sure you could structure it to be below a certain number of trades per month or year or day. And you could also exclude retirement accounts from this.

Just dismissing this because it’s a tax without actually thinking beyond that fact is ignorant.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:07 pm to
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would reduce high frequency trading, a practice which drains profits from retail investors and benefits only the very rich.


Well that's just false. Shocker.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84609 posts
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:07 pm to
They’ve discussed the idea of a tax on trades that are held less than a day.

My ultimate belief is this - if it’s bad for retail investors, ban it altogether. Don’t just throw your hand in the cookie jar to get yours while still screwing investors.

And ftr, I’m not convinced HFT is really all that bad period.
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:11 pm to
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I’m sure you could structure it to be below a certain number of trades per month or year or day. And you could also exclude retirement accounts from this.

Just dismissing this because it’s a tax without actually thinking beyond that fact is ignorant.




Never let the Govt issue a new tax. It will only go up from here.

They already tax profits on trades...it is called capital gains. No need for another tax,
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