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If you sign a non compete clause, and the contract is changed

Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:04 pm
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117678 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:04 pm
....changed/altered (literally) without your approval/initials, and the compensation agreement for base pay/% of production bonus was changed without any expressed or written consent after it has been signed, has it become void?
Posted by Finch
Member since Jun 2015
3146 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:15 pm to
It varies state to state

If you’re in LA, that’s good because we have some of the most employee friendly NC laws

Check for an arbitration clause or something denoting if you’re subject to another states laws in the beginning of your contract.

FYI, I’m not a lawyer but have had significant NC experience
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117678 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:17 pm to
quote:

an arbitration clause or something denoting if you’re subject to another states laws in the beginning of your contract.



No. This is in Louisiana.
Posted by Finch
Member since Jun 2015
3146 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:21 pm to
I’d consult a contract attorney

It will cost you about $200 to get it figured out


If you’re trying to get another job with a competitor, be up front with them and give them a copy and explain the situation. They will review and decide if they will endimify you upon hiring.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117678 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:33 pm to
We have given it to their (potential employer’s) attorney for review.

I’m just curious about amendments without consent, or any indication of consent in the absence of initials by both parties.

Also, current employer has never signed the original. Only made subsequent changes to the contract and compensation.
Posted by Finch
Member since Jun 2015
3146 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:41 pm to
I’ve gotten out of a NC based on them not filling out one section.

It basically comes down to if the new company feels like fighting it or not.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117678 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:43 pm to
This is a situation where the new employer sought out ______, and offered them a position with better terms for compensation.
Posted by Finch
Member since Jun 2015
3146 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:57 pm to
Then you should be good

If they came to you, they had to assume you had a NC.

If they’re smart, they aren’t buying the immediate conversion of buisness, they’re buying what you can bring after the MC expires.
Posted by lsujro
north of the wall
Member since Jul 2007
3919 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 8:24 am to
the whole nca may or may not be null, but anything added after your signature would certainly be. LA is very strict with nca's, which works in your favor.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
12252 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 8:59 am to
The contract speaks for itself. Any unilateral changes are not part of the contract. The original contract is still in force.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
26978 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:00 am to
I just drafted a NC. It's a massive pain in the arse to get one to be valid in Louisiana. You're probably fine.
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
14853 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 6:06 pm to
Non compete in LA are weak and only for the parish your office was in
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7208 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:12 pm to
Regardless of the validity, if you get sued and the new company won’t pick up the tab it’ll be expensive for you.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
26978 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 9:40 am to
quote:

Non compete in LA are weak and only for the parish your office was in


Not necessarily true. You can also include parishes which contain a substantial amount of customers. You simply have to list the parishes individually.
Posted by MNCscripper
St. George
Member since Jan 2004
11709 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 10:13 am to
quote:

contract attorney


Have any recs in the BR area?
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
7898 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 12:17 pm to
Non-compete agreements are bullshite anyway, even if you sign them. The only way they hold up is if you have some super secret company knowledge (i.e. you know the formula to Coke, then you go work for Pepsi).
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 10:09 pm to
quote:

Non-compete agreements are bullshite anyway, even if you sign them. The only way they hold up is if you have some super secret company knowledge (i.e. you know the formula to Coke, then you go work for Pepsi).


Not even remotely accurate, but even if what you have posted was true you can still be sued and out thousands in legal fees even if they toss the agreement.
Posted by jennyjones
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2006
9302 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 11:40 pm to
quote:

Not necessarily true. You can also include parishes which contain a substantial amount of customers. You simply have to list the parishes individually.


Yep. This is the key that alot companies (especially those based out of state) often overlook
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
11286 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 7:42 pm to
quote:

Not necessarily true. You can also include parishes which contain a substantial amount of customers. You simply have to list the parishes individually.



This is my understanding as well. We hired several of my colleagues from a competitor in Louisiana. This was how their non-competes were.

quote:

Not even remotely accurate, but even if what you have posted was true you can still be sued and out thousands in legal fees even if they toss the agreement.


According to our legal department they were also very strictly written and enforceable. Both of my colleagues waited two years before pursuing LA business.
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 9:56 am
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63859 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

Non-compete agreements are bullshite anyway, even if you sign them. The only way they hold up is if you have some super secret company knowledge (i.e. you know the formula to Coke, then you go work for Pepsi).



This used to be true in GA until Sonny Perdue made them very very enforcable on his way out the door.
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