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How do you handle your HSA?

Posted on 6/3/20 at 9:39 am
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 9:39 am
my deductible is $5k and after my next paycheck deposit I'll have more than that in my account. All of that is currently in the cash account, a minimum of $1k has to be moved at one time over to the investment side of the account.

When should I move money over to the investment side? Go ahead and do it as I don't plan on needing to use any of it any time soon? Wait until I have the extra thousand ($6k total) and keep moving all future contributions over as they deposit? Any advice is appreciated.

Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 9:43 am to
I put my family plans out of pocket max in cash at the beginning of the year. The rest is invested. I transfer every year depending on what we spent the previous year.
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 9:56 am to
I would, at a minimum, keep the deductible in cash. Even if you don't plan on needing it, shite happens. If you have other cash available then I would invest anything over the deductible and just earmark any other savings.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 10:04 am to
quote:

If you have other cash available then I would invest anything over the deductible and just earmark any other savings.


Yeah, I'm going to continue payroll deductions the rest of the year for sure to max this year out and probably max out next year as well to hopefully never really have to pay medical expenses OOP. That will give me roughly 2.5 times OOP, plus any growth from the investments.

From what I'm gathering, I'll let the cash account build to $6k, move the thousand into the investment account, and then move all further deposits directly into the investment account.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 10:17 am to
I have max out of pocket (1yr) in cash, the rest in total stock market
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:15 am to
That would be my plan
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
13847 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:25 am to
Anything over $2500 gets invested. Though I chose a plan for us which has a very high deductible of $10k, I am comfortable with this risk at this point in our lives.

The total account value (invested assets and cash) exceeds the family OOP max.
Posted by reb13
Member since May 2010
10905 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:37 am to
I fully fund but never use. It’s tax free in and tax free out. Would rather let it grow because I’m sure I’ll need it down the road.
Posted by PillPusher
Gulf Coast
Member since Oct 2009
5705 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:43 am to
I put every dollar except the $500 I’m required to keep in cash invested in a large growth etf. Paying all medical expenses out of pocket for now. Knock on wood my family hasn’t had any major health events and I don’t plan on touching/needing the money for 15+ years if I don’t have too. I’m basically using it as a supplemental retirement account due to all the tax advantages.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14473 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 12:28 pm to
Everything above the minimum cash amount invested. Minimum cash value is equal to my deductible so that works out well too.

Invested money is very easy to liquidate (not sure about settlement times or if it's available immediately) if I need to, and I'm not worried about returns at the moment.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16275 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

Invested money is very easy to liquidate (not sure about settlement times or if it's available immediately) if I need to, and I'm not worried about returns at the moment.

I think you need to know this to know how aggressive you want to be if you do not want to keep the $5k in cash. If you can cash out within 60 days, you would still be able to pay any medical bills before they start with the annoying calls/letters. Plus, if you're upfront with them, they are usually willing to work with you.

And, if it's a planned procedure, you can always time the liquidation.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14473 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 12:45 pm to
Our HSA provider is HealthEquity. So I guess it all depends on your HSA provider.

Looked it up and it's a 5 day settlement period for me.

Ideally, in an emergency, the cash balance would cover the deductible and out-of-pocket costs could be reimbursed once the funds settle.
Posted by bod312
Member since Jul 2015
846 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:13 pm to
Can you pay the medical bills out of pocket and reimburse yourself from your HSA?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:27 pm to
Any reason you guys aren't doing payroll deductions? I'm avoiding the roughly 8% payroll tax whereas you guys are paying that.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14473 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

Can you pay the medical bills out of pocket and reimburse yourself from your HSA?

As far as I can tell, yes. As long as it's an eligible expense.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118872 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:32 pm to
I dumped mine from the money market account it was in, into the stock market in February.





I'm still waiting for it to recover.
Posted by bod312
Member since Jul 2015
846 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 2:04 pm to
My contributions are coming as a payroll deduction into my HSA. I am investing all of my HSA money. I generally let it build up some and then move into the market. I was really just commenting on the above posters that seemed to be concerned with the timing of getting the money out of the market to pay a medical bill. I don't see that as an issue. If there was a time sensitive bill, I can pay out of pocket and reimburse myself from the HSA. There might be rules about doing it in the year or within a certain time frame, I don't know. I am also taking a long term perspective here as this is more for retirement or at least later versus right now.
Posted by tigersfan1989
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2018
1265 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 5:58 am to
I never was able to make sense of getting a high deductible hsa plan. Maybe someone can explain how these plans are better than the $300 deductible PPO plan I have. I don’t want to get hit with a 10k bill and have to foot the bill for it I’d rather have that $300 deductible and let the insurance take the hit. What am I missing here bc I’ve seen many people go with hsa plans?
Posted by buffbraz
Member since Nov 2005
5673 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 6:19 am to
I invest all contributions over the minimum (2K) cash amount into 50% target retirement fund and 50% REIT and use it as a supplemental retirement account. We pay all medical expenses out of pocket for now and plan on doing so until we retire. If a major medical event happens before then it will have grown triple tax advantaged. I invested two years worth (2019 and 2020) in March and April of this year so I have received a 30% return so far!
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82010 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 6:42 am to
quote:

Can you pay the medical bills out of pocket and reimburse yourself from your HSA?
yes...... Even twenty years for now.
Just keep all receipts in case of an audit. So yeah, ideally you pay every medical expense out of pocket and let your HSA grow,if you have the FCF
This post was edited on 6/4/20 at 6:43 am
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