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Have any of you ever tried radio advertising?

Posted on 4/14/13 at 11:50 am
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15134 posts
Posted on 4/14/13 at 11:50 am
I'm looking into doing some 30 second spots on the radio.

Just curious to see what I can expect on call return if anyone has tried this.

I'm looking to do 10 a week, 2 times a day during the 5 and 6 o'clock hour.

Thanks
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 4/14/13 at 12:28 pm to
In Las Vegas the LLC I was a member of was approached by a sales rep from a radio station who had learned before anyone was supposed to know that the station had been sold to a large network who was going to change the format and replace just about all personnel. He offered us a deal for 10 spots per day, for 30 second spots, for $10 per day for 2 years. The spots were spread throughout the day basewd on a stipulated schedule that included a couple spots per day during the morning and evening commutes. We jumped at it.

The sale fell through. We got a hell of a deal on the advertising. The sales rep got paid small commissions for the sale to us and others he made on similar terms. Then he got fired.

We averaged about 4 new clients per month from the advertising except in Feb., Mar. and Apr, We got just under 10 clients per month during those months. The advertising more than paid for itself at one new client per month.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 4/14/13 at 5:25 pm to
I would at least do 4 spots a day even if its not everyday. Radio has done pretty good for me but it took 3-4 months to really start working.
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15134 posts
Posted on 4/14/13 at 10:33 pm to


Thanks guys
Posted by Too Frat To Care
PMAC
Member since Mar 2011
6939 posts
Posted on 4/14/13 at 10:56 pm to
The best feedback you'll get, is from live broadcasts at your business. Aka remotes. Mix that in with spots throughout the day and you're good to go, homie.

I can't emphasize this enough, that it takes time. 3-5 months before you really see results. It works though speaking from experience.
This post was edited on 4/14/13 at 10:57 pm
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112385 posts
Posted on 4/15/13 at 11:55 am to
It really depends on your target and the station's format. If you're a bank or a car dealership you don't advertise on a station with 15-20 year old demographics.

Ask to see a printout of their Arbitron ratings. Don't take their word for it regarding their listening numbers.

During the time slot listen to the station on your radio to make sure they're not screwing up. Like running a spot for your competitor right after yours.

Also, check the quality of the production if it's done locally (and not given to them by you).
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15134 posts
Posted on 4/15/13 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

you don't advertise on a station with 15-20 year old demographics.


It's WJBO I was looking at and my demographic that I'm looking for is 50 and above.

AM radio has to be up in age on average.
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15134 posts
Posted on 4/15/13 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

The best feedback you'll get, is from live broadcasts at your business. Aka remotes.


I was listening to one of these the other day and was wondering what the response was. I'm not in retail though and can't see how this would work in my business.
Posted by lsufanintexas
Member since Sep 2006
5010 posts
Posted on 4/15/13 at 12:45 pm to
I'm gonna follow this thread myself. We are looking at doing radio advertising for our niche business and am looking at targeting "older" stations like classic rock, the talk radio stations, etc.

I'm looking to spend about 1k per month to start and do an initial 6 month campaign. Hopefully we will see some return on investment.

We just need to generate 8 new leads from it per month to break even which with our niche business, probably won't be hard to do.

I just have a hard time committing because I've heard horror stories from small businesses but I think it's because they never had the money to commit to a solid/longer term campaign.

We'll see. I've finally convince myself to do it. That an expand into both Dallas and Austin now.
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15134 posts
Posted on 4/15/13 at 1:20 pm to
That's a huge market. I can't see how that wouldn't work with that many people.

Liberty safes during Walton Johnson must dump a crap ton of money in advertising. They constantly have a spot going. They might get corporate funding to help out though.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 4/15/13 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

I just have a hard time committing because I've heard horror stories from small businesses but I think it's because they never had the money to commit to a solid/longer term campaign


Many people only try it for a couple months then give up. Or they run 1-2 ads a day, you need to do at least 4. A good station will work with you and if they have guest interviews with a hotline sometimes your business name could be the hotline for dirt cheap. For instance, "Call windshieldman hotline at such and such #."

It pays off in the long run if you stick with it. I only put in on average 200$ a month and I can tell a difference.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112385 posts
Posted on 4/15/13 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

I was listening to one of these the other day and was wondering what the response was. I'm not in retail though and can't see how this would work in my business.

Remotes = more money for the station and lower listeners. They tend to tune out. Don't do remotes.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97607 posts
Posted on 4/15/13 at 4:28 pm to
I thought everyone listened to Sirius or Pandora these days
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15134 posts
Posted on 4/15/13 at 5:58 pm to
I'm looking for the 60 and older crowd but I do use iheart a lot.

AM radio advertising
Posted by AutoYes_Clown
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2012
5169 posts
Posted on 4/15/13 at 6:52 pm to
quote:

Many people only try it for a couple months then give up. Or they run 1-2 ads a day, you need to do at least 4.


^I can't stress how vital this guy's posts have been. Seriously, people pay for advice like this.

A while back a partner and I experimented with radio. We found that the 5-6 time slot is stupid competitive and most listeners on music radio switch during commercials. Our best return was with church/religious stations, talk and sports radio.

The other businesses advertising at the stations that were reeling in clients/customers were the ones who'd been advertising for 2+ years and had a unique sponsored segment. For instance, A doctor had a 10 minute on air Q&A segment, a home builder had a 60 second home improvement tip, etc. Some on the sports radio just had the business owner call in and shoot the bull for 30-60 seconds. All essentially created an on-air personality.
Posted by lsufanintexas
Member since Sep 2006
5010 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:13 pm to
SO I just got quoted for a local talk station here in Houston 950 am.

The said that the minimum buy was $500 a week and that I needed to sign a contract for 10 weeks.

It's for 40 :15 second commercials a week. M-F, 1 at 630am, 1 at 730am, 1 at 4pm, 1 at 5pm, and then 20 per night from 12pm to 5am.

Honestly this seems pretty high since I've read you guys saying to spend around 200 a week but I don't know.

Can anyone give advice on how to negotiate this down a bit or what to try to get out of him?
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 3:57 pm to
lsufanintexas

Yea, a big city like Houston you are gonna have to pay good money. The radio stations Ive run on didnt require a contract but we are talking NE La, not Houston and my spots are usually anywhere from 5-9$ a spot. You might could ask them if they have any "empty spots" that run like midnight to 5 a.m you can get at a discount. Sometimes large stations have those.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112385 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 4:19 pm to
quote:

You might could ask them if they have any "empty spots" that run like midnight to 5 a.m you can get at a discount. Sometimes large stations have those.

Yep. There will be at least five people listening in the midnight to 5 a.m. slot.

If you really wanta go cheap look at a rate card that gives discounts for small numbers of spots over a LONG period of time.

We had one guy.. a banker.. who bought 2 spots a day for 10 years.
Posted by Zephyrius
Wharton, La.
Member since Dec 2004
7929 posts
Posted on 4/17/13 at 11:55 am to
The only thing I would say is make sure if you are in a certain couple of hours they don't let them play the add at the same exact time for 3 months.

When I had an office job it would be like clock work when I got to a certain red light in traffic on the way to work the same commercial came on every day... There should be some repetitiveness but it seemed like a waste of money hitting me with the same commercial everyday at the same time.

You may want to have the sales person introduce you to the "traffic" person(this is the person who schedules when your commercials aired). Not sure how much they control air times these days but back in the day that was their sole responsibility...
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112385 posts
Posted on 4/17/13 at 2:08 pm to
quote:

You may want to have the sales person introduce you to the "traffic" person(this is the person who schedules when your commercials aired). Not sure how much they control air times these days but back in the day that was their sole responsibility...


At my station the head sales guy was the traffic person. The traffic girl just typed the log.
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