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Fed hikes rates, see 3 more rate hikes in 2017

Posted on 12/14/16 at 1:23 pm
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
11900 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 1:23 pm
FED raises rates 0.25%. That should already be cooked into the mortgage rates we're seeing now, right? I wonder if they'll even come down a little as they went up more than .25% over the last month+. Although the 3 hikes in 2017 may mean they go even higher before the hikes?

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This post was edited on 12/14/16 at 1:29 pm
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/14/16 at 1:26 pm to
Posted by ScarletFire
Birmingham, AL
Member since Oct 2016
627 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

I wonder if they'll even come down a little as they went up more than .25% over the last month+.


I hope so, I'm buying soon
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41146 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 1:53 pm to
Lost about a quarter in rate today.
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 1:56 pm to
1929 style crash shortly
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58089 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 2:07 pm to
LOL
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4579 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 2:08 pm to
Technically mortgage rates move off LIBOR which is correlated to the fed funds rate movements, but is not directly manipulated by the Fed.
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 12/14/16 at 2:26 pm to
God, you're even horrible on this board.
This post was edited on 12/14/16 at 2:26 pm
Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
10424 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 2:27 pm to
What does a rate hike mean for people who were looking to buy a home sometime in Q1-Q2 2017? This would be a first home for me so I am curious if I should buy earlier in the year or wait it out.
This post was edited on 12/14/16 at 2:28 pm
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50337 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

What does a rate hike mean for people who were looking to buy a home sometime in Q1-Q2 2017? This would be a first home for me so I am curious if I should buy earlier in the year or wait it out.



You should be able to get a rate locked in for at least 30-60 days
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41146 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 2:38 pm to
Earlier in the year will be better rates than later in the year.
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 2:42 pm to
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God, you're even horrible on this board.


Im horrible on this board? Go back to the stock threads Im the one who said pre election the stock market is vastly undervalued and would still rise higher while everyone was looking for a crash. I was the one who said based off historical correlations to the long bond the market was possibly even 50% undervalued and it kept going up while everyone went to cash or got short.

I think if you noticed, Im one of the better posters on this board, my thread on dividends a few years ago is still referenced by many on here as I laid out alot. Also if you look a couple months back I said starbucks in the low 50s was my biggest position and a dividend hike was coming soon and thus the stock would follow and guess what starbucks went from $51-60 in a short timeframe after that.

Just bc I kid or troll on here about people being worried about a .25% hike thats already baked into the market, you think im a horrible poster? Do you know how many god awful threads are started on here about "what should I do with $5k if i dont wanna take risk in the next year", what kinda adult asks a silly question like that? Its ridiculous, this is the one no nonsense board on here and we get silly questions all the time. What do you think is gonna happen with 3 rate hikes? Absolutely nothing bc its all priced into the market, the market only goes haywire when we get shock from somewhere else, see china in august 2015 or 9/11 terrorist attack, etc. The market is the market and its a forward thinking instrument and only gets rattled when something unexpected happens, interest rates rising is a well known secret, it wont surprise the market. Why dont you take a few moments and study historical correlations between the long bond and stocks, this board has been bearish for god knows how long and it hasn't worked out at all. LSURussian is my favorite poster on here bc he trolls the bears about that fact alot.
This post was edited on 12/14/16 at 2:47 pm
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10229 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 2:48 pm to
I follow you pretty closely. Should I go to all cash? And where should I put my cash to get a guaranteed 11% with no risk?
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 2:50 pm to
Well if you want you can buy low income housing, fairly simple high interest returns I can find you 15-20% all day in houston if you want to deal with those tenant.

As for the market, you can generate those returns as you know in the options market. Selling weekly puts on names near 52 week lows has worked out great for me.Nike and Baba are my candidates now with where they are. Go sell puts on those weekly and rack up those weekly dividends boss.

Now that starbucks soared, I sold it off and have begun selling puts in baba to try to get in around $90, Baba sees $150 or more within 24 months, book it.
This post was edited on 12/14/16 at 2:52 pm
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10229 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 2:52 pm to
Roger that!
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 2:57 pm to
I'll happily even find you the listings in Houston if you'd like
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35341 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 2:57 pm to
I want liquidity, safety of principal, and earning potential. Whatcha got?
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 2:59 pm to
Sell puts a month or more out at 10% or lower than current price strikes on names you like near 52 week lows,easy money. Worst case you buy a name you like today at 10% off,you're still liquid and can close it whenever you want.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35341 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 3:00 pm to
I'm just messing with you, but those are the demands of my clients
Posted by homesick1934
Member since Oct 2016
66 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 3:01 pm to
Woe is me! I've been sitting on a low-interest rate CD for 2 years waiting for rates to go up so I could buy long term tax-exempt Municipal bonds to get better rates.

So the Fed raises the Fed-Funds rate 0.25% today and announces that probably rates will be raised 3 times each in 2017, 2018 and 2019 to a target of 3.0%.

I would be stupid to buy into a rising interest rate expectation like that. If interest rates do continue to rise the stock market bubble is going to EXPLODE.

What does a prudent investor do???????


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