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re: Dont let today's fools gold fool you.

Posted on 8/23/11 at 8:37 pm to
Posted by Tiger4
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Posted on 8/23/11 at 8:37 pm to
What is the general centiment in this thread?
Posted by djmicrobe
Planet Earth
Member since Jan 2007
4970 posts
Posted on 8/23/11 at 9:03 pm to
Has more insider buying occurred?
I am curious as to what is happening or happened to cause a channelling to occur when the expectation was a more continued decline.
Disclosure: I am not short the market.

Does your friend watch precious metals or currency? does he have anopinion on whether the dollar will continue to drop or not?

Has anyone heard what the Fed will say Friday? That could cause the market to move.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/23/11 at 9:41 pm to
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What is the general centiment in this thread?
Consider techincals, but never independent of fundamentals
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/24/11 at 7:57 am to
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What is the general centiment
Is that the metric equivalent of 'sentiment'?
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:14 am to
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Is that the metric equivalent of 'sentiment'?


It's like giving 1/10th of a damn.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:23 am to
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It's like giving 1/10th of a damn.


I laughed.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28158 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:25 am to
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It's like giving 1/10th


you suck at math....

ETA: but A+ at humor
This post was edited on 8/24/11 at 8:26 am
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65132 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:32 am to
I thought it was "2 cents".
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:37 am to
Sorry bro. The coffee hasn't set in yet, and I'm reading this in between spurts of standardized credit policy.
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
10710 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:04 am to
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Some folks will claim a "good guess" after the fact though. As you know, after the fact claims are not really helpful, even in the unusual circumstance they're actually true. Generic observation, if there is something you're confident in, lay it out it when you are claiming to invest, not when you retrospectively claim to have profited.


3 points:

1)No one on here hinted or claimed to know the magnitude of the bounce that occurred yesterday in advance or proclaimed there would be such, so people are guessing---I'm not into the hocus pocus

2) Investors can make money in assets other than equities, leveraged or not

3)The TIPS were bought @ auction in....Feb, and the 37+% is factual including the interest payment last week--no one could have accurately predicted the magnitude of gains from that point. On the contrary, people would have been looking at the anticipated real coupon and waffling on whether to buy it even if it fit a LT investment plan, future retirement need, and it's moderation of equity volatility in a portfolio. Hell, even the 10-YR issued last month is up 5%, these are f'd up times in financial markets.

I made money on VDE and SDY, added STO as a longer term hold last week, but not jumping up and down about any of it. The market gives, the market takes, I don't take any of this shite too seriously as it is fiat and at the end of the day no one knows the future. Easily cleared enough to pay for a nice 10-day vacation, though.
Posted by Wilfred
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
926 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:18 am to
Investors business daily changed their outlook from "market in correction" to "market in confirmed uptrend" yesterday. They also said there are too many question marks to buy aggressively as of now.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135438 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 11:10 am to
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No one on here hinted or claimed to know the magnitude of the bounce that occurred yesterday in advance or proclaimed there would be such, so people are guessing---I'm not into the hocus pocus
quote:

(Posted on 8/19/11 at 2:59 p.m.)
Just bought UDOW for the ride up.
Maybe I'm not following.
Posted by Tiger4
Member since Jan 2009
8761 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 11:17 am to
I don't want a lecture about English from Finance majors!

Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 12:01 pm to
I hate to tell you this, but my job involves an enormous amount of writing, and crappy English is basically the definition of unprofessional.
Posted by Wilfred
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
926 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 12:06 pm to


Someone factor in a Cat 2 hitting NYC. Where does that leave us?
This post was edited on 8/24/11 at 12:07 pm
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 12:16 pm to
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I hate to tell you this, but my job involves an enormous amount of writing, and crappy English is basically the definition of unprofessional.


Ditto.

Writing skills are very important in finance.

However, after reading a lot of letters from small time CPAs, I've determined that being able to spell and form a sentence is not required for accounting.
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
10710 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 12:19 pm to
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Maybe I'm not following.


Seriously, you realize how broad based the comment was? Where is the Tuesday, 23rd call for the big pop? Where is your magic for today/tomorrow? I am not arguing just to argue, but pseudo forecasters make money off the masses by making broad sweeping proclamations, like "for the ride up" while leaving themselves outs as to to timelines and magnitudes of moves. One day, 3 days, a week, gonna take 6-months, how much is the projected upside/downside? There is zero precision in the statement "for the ride up".

Glad you made money.
Posted by Tiger4
Member since Jan 2009
8761 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 12:20 pm to
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I hate to tell you this, but my job involves an enormous amount of writing, and crappy English is basically the definition of unprofessional.
Don't hate telling me anything, I'll take what I can from people with real world experience. I was just kidding, I don't have spell check and I was tired.
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
10710 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 12:21 pm to
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However, after reading a lot of letters from small time CPAs, I've determined that being able to spell and form a sentence is not required for accounting.


Especially from Bama MBA graduates I worked with. Talk about making oneself look like a dim bulb no matter the analytical skills.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28158 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 12:26 pm to
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Someone factor in a Cat 2 hitting NYC. Where does that leave us?


Well NY would be on the weaker side of the storm, so that shouldn't be too bad. Plus it's hitting on a weekend.
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