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Can we make money in Russia's stock market?
Posted on 9/1/14 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 9/1/14 at 7:24 pm
Their market has been getting hammered ( and rightfully so). But if (when) things cool off over there, the market should come roaring back, right?
Are there any funds I can invest in that can take advantage of this?
Maybe LSURussian can chime in....
Are there any funds I can invest in that can take advantage of this?
Maybe LSURussian can chime in....
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Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:39 pm to I Love Bama
Several Russian etfs. Take a look at gval. Invests in stocks incountries with lowest cape ratios.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:41 pm to I Love Bama
I am interested in what the MB has to say about this.
I have been looking to capitalize in Greece. I have been tracking companies over the past year, but I have a very hard time valuating companies that I am not familiar with. National Bank of Greece is one that I believe offers huge upside long term. I just haven't seen any indications of a turnaround just yet.
I have been looking to capitalize in Greece. I have been tracking companies over the past year, but I have a very hard time valuating companies that I am not familiar with. National Bank of Greece is one that I believe offers huge upside long term. I just haven't seen any indications of a turnaround just yet.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:56 pm to I Love Bama
In Russia, stock market make money off of you.
No? Hello? Is this thing on?
No? Hello? Is this thing on?
Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:44 pm to I Love Bama
Only invest an amount you can afford to lose. You might make a decent return or you might lose everything.
I've found better ways to lose money....
I've found better ways to lose money....
Posted on 9/1/14 at 10:11 pm to I Love Bama
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I Love Bama
This sounds like a terrible idea.
1. Their economy is worse than ours.
2. US government sanctions could make your investment worthless.
3. Russian government sanctions could make your investments worthless.
With as close as it's been getting to all out war over there, I bought some relatively cheap SPY puts as insurance on the gains I currently have in my portfolio.
Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:45 am to Beerinthepocket
What about picking up some rubles? As low as they are getting they are bound to pick back up at some point. I've never ventured into that form of gambling so maybe someone here can shed light.
Posted on 9/2/14 at 6:11 am to I Love Bama
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the market should come roaring back, right?
Sort of seems like investing in Cuban and Venezuelan stocks to me. Russia doesn't exactly represent a future of vibrant economic growth.
Posted on 9/2/14 at 8:25 am to I Love Bama
It's one of the most volatile markets there is. Also, the exposure to swings in the Ruble adds a second dimension of the trade that we don't see in the US stock market.
This one is a no for me.
This one is a no for me.
Posted on 9/2/14 at 10:40 am to I Love Bama
Markets come roaring back as long as you have the necessary investor base and financial infrastructure to allow it to roar back. This was the case with Greek equities following their massive sell-off, but the difference is here that Russia is actually cutting ties to western capital and investors.
You can invest in a variety of funds and ETFs to get Russian exposure (whether locally or externally), but retail money will not be the catalyst that causes a rebound in Russian market. Large global asset managers comfortably rolling their holdings in Sberbank, Gazprom, etc. gives the necessary stability for sustained rally to occur. This is what is in jeopardy at the moment if geopolitical tensions continue to rise. Definitely not the time to "buy the dip".
You can invest in a variety of funds and ETFs to get Russian exposure (whether locally or externally), but retail money will not be the catalyst that causes a rebound in Russian market. Large global asset managers comfortably rolling their holdings in Sberbank, Gazprom, etc. gives the necessary stability for sustained rally to occur. This is what is in jeopardy at the moment if geopolitical tensions continue to rise. Definitely not the time to "buy the dip".
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:45 am to BennyAndTheInkJets
This is what you want to hear
If you see a couple more steps in the right direction, you might want to start dipping your toes. Keep in mind losing a toe and losing a leg are two different things.
If you see a couple more steps in the right direction, you might want to start dipping your toes. Keep in mind losing a toe and losing a leg are two different things.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 1:13 pm to I Love Bama
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Are there any funds I can invest in that can take advantage of this?
I'd put my money in the 'I Love Bama' fund that returned 100% this year....
Posted on 9/3/14 at 1:20 pm to Ole War Skule
That was one RE deal. Notice I said cash on cash...
I haven't been able to find any RE deals lately.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 7:00 pm to BennyAndTheInkJets
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the difference is here that Russia is actually cutting ties to western capital and investors
This right here.
Although I have to wonder what the hell Putin is thinking by pursuing this course. Maybe things will change but it's a big crapshoot. I have no problems with crapshoots but in this case I believe the odds aren't favorable for the average western investor.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 7:20 pm to I Love Bama
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I haven't been able to find any RE deals lately.
inventory is slowly shrinking on foreclosed homes.
LINK
Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:55 pm to I Love Bama
Yes, if you short a Russian exchanged-based ETF
Posted on 9/3/14 at 11:13 pm to Walking the Earth
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In Russia, stock market make money off of you. No? Hello? Is this thing on?
On budet zdes' vsyu nedelyu, ne zabyvayte davat' chayevyye khozyayke.
(He'll be here all week, dont forget to tip your hostess.)
This post was edited on 9/3/14 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 9/4/14 at 7:04 am to soccerfüt
I put some money in Russian stocks recently. They have a lot of companies trading at very low multiples.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 8:50 am to Iowa Golfer
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They have a lot of companies trading at very low multiples.
Go on....
Posted on 9/4/14 at 9:23 am to I Love Bama
Not much to say. I mentioned it on here before about placing a position in Russian stocks. It's a risky play, and I placed some funds in Russian stocks. Indirectly and directly on MICEX and some individual companies. Also a play on their currency mostly as insurance.
I don't take a lot of risky positions, but when I do I usually commit to it long term and understand many times it's an all or none proposition.
I took the position when things looked very bad over there. Not to say it can't get worse, and worse quickly.
I don't take a lot of risky positions, but when I do I usually commit to it long term and understand many times it's an all or none proposition.
I took the position when things looked very bad over there. Not to say it can't get worse, and worse quickly.
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