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Can someone check these rental numbers.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 10:59 am
Posted on 9/20/20 at 10:59 am
Or point out something I’m not considering.
Colorado Springs, crazy hot rental market. A property has come up for sale for 105k. It’s a 2 bed 2 bath, generates rent of about 1300 conservatively.
Talked to my broker. I can put 6k down, note, taxes, Ins, HOA will run about $1100 per month.
This is a no-brainer right?
Colorado Springs, crazy hot rental market. A property has come up for sale for 105k. It’s a 2 bed 2 bath, generates rent of about 1300 conservatively.
Talked to my broker. I can put 6k down, note, taxes, Ins, HOA will run about $1100 per month.
This is a no-brainer right?
Posted on 9/20/20 at 11:38 am to LSU in Frisco TX
I'm curious what others think here. Seems tight to me. Who's managing it? Are you figuring management fee into your numbers?
Posted on 9/20/20 at 11:56 am to LSU in Frisco TX
Consider maintenance... May not cash flow positive with those numbers. Although by only putting down $6k I am guessing that is not your primary concern.
HOA must be expensive... but $1300 rent on $105k purchase price is pretty solid.
HOA must be expensive... but $1300 rent on $105k purchase price is pretty solid.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 12:22 pm to LSU in Frisco TX
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This is a no-brainer right?
f no! not enough cash flow for that entry point. you are at my bare balls MINIMUM 200 PCf for that which i'd never accept unless property was much cheaper. none of my cash flows are any where near that low. way more. actually, with Pm and maintenance you will be way under 200 PCF. so you will prolly cash flow 100 a month. 8% Pm fee (could be 9 or 10) of that rent is right at 100. add maintenance. you will cashflow under 100 a month. no thanks. I'd never do that deal. unless you want appreciation and you plan on dumping within a few years EXPECTING prices to rise dramatically.
This post was edited on 9/20/20 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 9/20/20 at 12:24 pm to whitefoot
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I'm curious what others think here. Seems tight to me.
it is terrible actually.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 12:39 pm to LSU in Frisco TX
No A/C in unit correct? My niece lives in Colorado Springs & complains about no a/c. Could deter renters? Just a thought
Posted on 9/20/20 at 1:09 pm to LSU in Frisco TX
in the simplest possible terms
your rent proceeds are 1300/mo
your HOA and note is 1100/mo
your net before expenses is 200/mo which is nothing especially on a single unit. You can blow thru 200 bucks easier than you think on basic ownership expenses
pretty far from a no brainer if you are looking to generate revenue
your rent proceeds are 1300/mo
your HOA and note is 1100/mo
your net before expenses is 200/mo which is nothing especially on a single unit. You can blow thru 200 bucks easier than you think on basic ownership expenses
pretty far from a no brainer if you are looking to generate revenue
This post was edited on 9/20/20 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 9/20/20 at 1:28 pm to Fat Bastard
Is $1300 rent on a $105k property terrible?
I knew only $200 cushion wasn't great, but seemed the purchase price to expected rent might be decent.
I've been considering purchasing rental property but have a lot to learn, which is why I was curious about the replies op would get.
I knew only $200 cushion wasn't great, but seemed the purchase price to expected rent might be decent.
I've been considering purchasing rental property but have a lot to learn, which is why I was curious about the replies op would get.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 2:00 pm to LSU in Frisco TX
I’ll go against the prevailing wisdom in this thread and say it’s a good deal on the face. You’re putting down 6k and cash flowing 200 per month. You’ll have your initial investment back in 2.5 years at that point.
However, there’s a lot more information needed on if you should really buy it or not. What the length of the note? Class of property? Loan type? Age of property?
However, there’s a lot more information needed on if you should really buy it or not. What the length of the note? Class of property? Loan type? Age of property?
Posted on 9/20/20 at 2:02 pm to whitefoot
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I've been considering purchasing rental property but have a lot to learn, which is why I was curious about the replies op would get.
It’s pretty decent. If you can get 1.3-1.5% purchase price per month, and it’s a decent class property, you should normally come out ahead.
The only issue is almost everything I figure is with 15-20% down. If you’re getting deals at 5% down payment, it really changes things. You can scale much faster like that.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 2:16 pm to LSU in Frisco TX
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note, taxes, Ins, HOA will run about $1100
How bad is the HOA and taxes? I would of thought you'd be closer to 800-1000
Posted on 9/20/20 at 6:06 pm to C
Goals from this investment need to be crystal clear. You don’t have much capital at risk given the monthly income. If you are wanting to cash flow this and generate CFC from this then that $200/month is pretty minimal.
However, $1300/month in revenue when you only have $6K invested and a total of $105K to pay off...long-term that’s going to pay out nicely.
However, $1300/month in revenue when you only have $6K invested and a total of $105K to pay off...long-term that’s going to pay out nicely.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 6:22 pm to Fat Bastard
I’m not worried about cash flow, I want long term equity and eventually cash flow for retirement (25 yrs).
I could put more down, or take the note to 30 yrs, but why tie up cash?
HOA is steep. It’s almost $500/month. But it includes electrify, water, trash, and sewage.
There is no AC, but it has a couple window units. Not unusual for CO SPRINGS in this price range.
I could put more down, or take the note to 30 yrs, but why tie up cash?
HOA is steep. It’s almost $500/month. But it includes electrify, water, trash, and sewage.
There is no AC, but it has a couple window units. Not unusual for CO SPRINGS in this price range.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 6:27 pm to whitefoot
Yes, there’s a management company here in town that charges $75 per month flat and they everything.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 6:34 pm to LSU in Frisco TX
"I’m not worried about cash flow"
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I bought several properties with that mindset and they worked out fine. My wife and I were both working and we put them on 10 or 15 year notes.
So how long is the loan/note with those numbers?
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I bought several properties with that mindset and they worked out fine. My wife and I were both working and we put them on 10 or 15 year notes.
So how long is the loan/note with those numbers?
Posted on 9/20/20 at 7:04 pm to ItzMe1972
I ran it with a 20 yr note. 5 yrs before retirement.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 7:44 pm to LSU in Frisco TX
That could work if no major expenses crop up or the market crashes. Biggest expenses are typically roofing and HVAC, but you said you have window units. Oh, and vacancies.
Try to get it cheaper if possible. Good luck.
Try to get it cheaper if possible. Good luck.
This post was edited on 9/20/20 at 7:48 pm
Posted on 9/20/20 at 8:37 pm to ItzMe1972
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That could work if no major expenses crop up
But even if something does come up, he only putting $6k down, I'm assuming that's not all the cash he has, so coming out of pocket for repairs is probably something he's going to have to anticipate.
The thing that would scare me the most are those HOA fees. Is that not insanely high for a $100k property? 40% of the revenue goes to that. What if it goes up? What amenities are there other than utilities?
Posted on 9/20/20 at 9:02 pm to LSU in Frisco TX
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HOA is steep. It’s almost $500/month. But it includes electrify, water, trash, and sewage.
That is ridiculous. I pay $280 now, but that includes internet, cable, a gym, a gated secure entrance, and a swimming pool on top of everything you mentioned. The only thing I don't have is electricity.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 9:34 pm to LSU in Frisco TX
That’s not a margin I’d be excited about. Many of mine are about that price and I rent for 16-1700. I won’t say that’s the norm especially for SFH, but I’ve been very fortunate so far in my investments.
This post was edited on 9/20/20 at 9:36 pm
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