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Best Vanguard Index Fund?

Posted on 9/6/21 at 9:53 pm
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 9/6/21 at 9:53 pm
I’m guessing the first one

Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund (VTSAX)

Vanguard 500 Index Fund Admiral Shares (VFIAX)

Vanguard Total Bond Market Index Fund Admiral Shares (VBTLX)

Vanguard Total International Stock Index Fund Admiral Shares (VTIAX)

Vanguard Real Estate Index Fund Admiral Shares (VGSLX)

Vanguard Growth Index Fund Admiral Shares (VIGAX)

Vanguard Balanced Index Fund Admiral Shares (VBIAX)

Vanguard Dividend Growth Fund (VDIGX
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:05 pm to
Impossible to answer. There isn’t a “best” fund.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:15 pm to
Was questioning whether the 500 was better
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:16 pm to
Yea, but it’s better than mutual funds where you get raped with fees for the “managing”, like a 2050 fund

I originally set it up for a 2050 fund. Almost a 21% return, which is decent
This post was edited on 9/6/21 at 10:26 pm
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:20 pm to
VINIX
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:21 pm to
I’m listening to an audio book, Common Sense Investing, and he is shitting all over mutual funds and using money managers. 90% of them are no better than your average, educated retail investor
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:24 pm to
Found this detailed document about Vanguard returns:

https://institutional.vanguard.com/iam/pdf/total_return_chart.pdf
This post was edited on 9/6/21 at 10:32 pm
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:27 pm to
I did the same thing with my fidelity account. Looked at the returns and hand picked much better index funds that had much better returns
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:28 pm to
Correct, index funds are preferable to actively managed funds for the average investor.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:37 pm to
There is VTI and VOO too
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:52 pm to
The Growth index funds outperforms the Total Stock Market index. A couple ETF’s do too
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
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Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:28 pm to
VTSAX and chill
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:54 pm to
Some of the ETF options look good as well. Have to be careful because last year returns were absolutely crazy.

I’m 36. I’m starting to lean towards a Growth index fund or etf.
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 12:08 am
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:58 pm to
Focus is really on total mkt, 500, growth, or a combo. They all seem to do well, but the real question is what will be best over the next 4 years. I’ve heard a lot of talk about people returning to value stocks. Far right cut off part is 10 year returns







This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 12:08 am
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18878 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 5:47 am to
quote:

Was questioning whether the 500 was better

I thought I was doing really well with three hand picked funds in my HSA account.

They are getting me 20.1% ytd

Well, the S&P is at 20.75%
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42557 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 7:12 am to
Me likey VYM.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 9:03 am to
quote:

I’m listening to an audio book, Common Sense Investing, and he is shitting all over mutual funds and using money managers. 90% of them are no better than your average, educated retail investor



It really depends, but index fund people champion index funds because of the low cost and the fact most active managed funds arent worth the extra expense because long term 8/10, 9/10 or so dont outperform the index. There's also a lot of bad mutual fund products out there, but some really good ones too.

HOWEVER, that doesnt mean if you really do some research and good picking on some higher expense mutual funds you cant beat the market/index over some time, either. I would say it's probably more about being lucky though there than a great picker overall. Some can just be very good (probably lucky) about going to the right funds when the time is right.

I do both low expense index funds and higher fee mutual funds and do have some mutual funds who have crushed the index. One example is WMICX from Wasatch. It has a ridiculous expense ratio (1.66%), but the returns on it the last few years have been extremely high. According to morningstar over 10% higher than the index in 2017, 2018, 2019 and 2020. It's actually not doing great in it's category in 2021, but still above the index. WMICX performance...but then you look at 2011 through 2016 and it was most definitely not worth the extra cost. Even then though, if you look at the 10 year return, it's at 21.16% annualized which the index was at just 15.6% annualized, so the 1.66% expense ratio still was justified over 10 years in that respect.
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 9:16 am
Posted by ThatsAFactJack
East Coast
Member since Sep 2012
1539 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 9:14 am to
VOOG
Posted by white perch
the bright, happy side of hell
Member since Apr 2012
7122 posts
Posted on 9/8/21 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

Vanguard Growth Index Fund Admiral Shares (VIGAX)
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
52907 posts
Posted on 9/8/21 at 5:01 pm to
Probably the vanguard 10 million dollars to Hillary’s campaign fund

Oh wait that’s every vanguard
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