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AT out here forgiving student loans

Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:18 am
Posted by RogerTempleton
Austin
Member since Nov 2014
3012 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:18 am
With his stock tips. Thanks brother. I ain't selling TSNP but I could pay off my student loans on just that one tip.
Posted by ThereGoesHerschel
Member since May 2011
882 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:20 am to
Earlier this week I started buying some tsnp and wkhs for the long term hold. I don't have thousands of shares like some of you guys but I'm hoping that if they climb up into the high $100s like suggested in a few years I'll be in good shape.

Thanks AT
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
25938 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:21 am to
quote:

I ain't selling TSNP but I could pay off my student loans on just that one tip


Curious, why wouldnt you sell and take that weight off your shoulders and then invest that student loan payment money for the next however many years you would have had left?
Posted by CaptainJ47
Gonzales
Member since Nov 2007
7328 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:22 am to
Personally why payoff something at a 5-7% interest rate when Biden may cancel them and/or you can make more than 5-7% in the market on an annual basis?
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
12222 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:24 am to
WHO NEEDS THE GUBMENT FOR BAIL OUT

AT 2024!
Posted by RogerTempleton
Austin
Member since Nov 2014
3012 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:26 am to
quote:

Curious, why wouldnt you sell and take that weight off your shoulders and then invest that student loan payment money for the next however many years you would have had left?



I'm at 4% interest rate average and TSNP is growing faster than that.

I think ultimately I am going to cash out but yes, waiting to see what Buyden does first. Although I have to imagine there will be an income cap on who qualifies for student loan forgiveness
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
25938 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:27 am to
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when Biden may cancel them


This I understand

quote:

you can make more than 5-7% in the market on an annual basis


Maybe my head cant wrap around the numbers, I feel like you can get much more out of that if you can invest all the money youd be saving for the years that you would be still paying.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30517 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:29 am to
I’m out here not making payments on mine until I’m required and only making minimum payments. I only have $10k left and I could pay them off, but at 3.5% interest and not paying any interest until Sept, I don’t see any reason to pay them. Plus the proposed student loan forgiveness seems to be hovering around $10k per person, which would cover me nicely
This post was edited on 2/5/21 at 9:30 am
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:30 am to
Rides a skateboard better than BETO
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:31 am to
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Personally why payoff something at a 5-7% interest rate when Biden may cancel them and/or you can make more than 5-7% in the market on an annual basis?


Excellent point!
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
26659 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:32 am to
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Maybe my head cant wrap around the numbers, I feel like you can get much more out of that if you can invest all the money youd be saving for the years that you would be still paying.

Nah you want to put your money in whatever is getting you the biggest return. If his loans were higher than what he could get in the market then that’s when it makes sense to pay them off.

Plus if they’re federal loans then he’s not having to pay anything right now (he can definitely get more than 0% returns in the market) and there’s a good chance he’s looking at loan forgiveness (at least some portion).
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
13602 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:33 am to
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Maybe my head cant wrap around the numbers, I feel like you can get much more out of that if you can invest all the money youd be saving for the years that you would be still paying.


You take all the money you would pay in lump sum for student loans and invest it. You pay student loans monthly for 10-25 years. Also, if you die the student loan debt is wiped out, so what is the rush to pay them when you can use the money in other places to make more money? You can also write off the interest if you itemize. Many with substantial student loan debt also itemize. That’s how I get my head around it. May not be the best idea, but it has been working for me.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
25938 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:33 am to
quote:

I’m out here not making payments on mine until I’m required and only making minimum payments. I only have $10k left and I could pay them off, but at 3.5% interest and not paying any interest until Sept, I don’t see any reason to pay them. Plus the proposed student loan forgiveness seems to be hovering around $10k per person, which would cover me nicely


Yea I get that.

And honestly, I am in the same boat except Im gonna get absolutely raped by Biden and taxes when I finally cash out of crypto. So I think Ill be paying off mine unless I wait a couple years and get back to a lower tax bracket
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
26659 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:34 am to
I’m down to about $14k in student loans and doing the same.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
25938 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:36 am to
quote:

Nah you want to put your money in whatever is getting you the biggest return. If his loans were higher than what he could get in the market then that’s when it makes sense to pay them off.

Plus if they’re federal loans then he’s not having to pay anything right now (he can definitely get more than 0% returns in the market) and there’s a good chance he’s looking at loan forgiveness (at least some portion).


quote:


You take all the money you would pay in lump sum for student loans and invest it. You pay student loans monthly for 10-25 years. Also, if you die the student loan debt is wiped out, so what is the rush to pay them when you can use the money in other places to make more money? You can also write off the interest if you itemize. Many with substantial student loan debt also itemize. That’s how I get my head around it. May not be the best idea, but it has been working for me.


Gotcha, thanks guys

I really asked because people have been asking me that about my investments.

And I feel like if I take out that large of an amount right now, then Im missing on a substantial amount of profit that I think is still possible.


And Im trying to balance that with the mental relief I would have of being debt free, at the same time knowing my personality and knowing Id be beating myself up over missing out on more.


Just trying to find more ways to justify it, thanks for coming to my Ted talk

Posted by deaconjones35
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2009
9801 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:46 am to
I just trimmed some of my positions to pay off all of my unsecured debt. It’s a real good feeling. I could cash out completely and pay off my truck and my wife’s van but there is too much long term potential with my holdings.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:47 am to
quote:

I just trimmed some of my positions to pay off all of my unsecured debt. It’s a real good feeling.


Congrats man. best feeling in the world.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:48 am to
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Personally why payoff something at a 5-7% interest rate when Biden may cancel them and/or you can make more than 5-7% in the market on an annual basis?


For me personally, I hate being in debt and I hate the monthly payments.

I’m aggressively paying off my loans because I hate them.

I know it might not technically be the best decision dollar wise but peace of mind is a big factor.

Mortgage, car notes, etc I’m fine with. The student loan bills make me irrationally angry every month.
This post was edited on 2/5/21 at 9:49 am
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
24234 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:51 am to
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For me personally, I hate being in debt and I hate the monthly payments.

I’m aggressively paying off my loans because I hate them.

I know it might not technically be the best decision dollar wise but peace of mind is a big factor


I share this mindset. When you have an obligation floating out there, it feels like you have something that really needs to be done with that money and you’re neglecting it. Once those debts are paid, I know that money is mine and there is a freedom that comes with it.
Posted by tigersfan1989
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2018
1265 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:56 am to
How much did you put in tsnp? I took his advice and bought but I didn’t put much in bc let’s be honest it’s a very speculative play
This post was edited on 2/5/21 at 9:57 am
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