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Posted on 3/5/12 at 3:00 pm to Nuts4LSU
I have heard and read people question LSU's commitment to basketball for years. It has nothing to do with the specific moment in time we are in right now.
Posted on 3/5/12 at 3:02 pm to Bubba Hotep
Bubba, since you were one of those guys (like me) saying .500 in the SEC could/would save his job. What are your thoughts now that TJ finished 7-9 and an ugly 7-9 at that?
Posted on 3/5/12 at 3:05 pm to Bubba Hotep
I was surprised to learn that Men's Basketball actually did better than break even....but it could do better.
The priority is football, but basketball is far from irrelevant given the recent investments.
The priority is football, but basketball is far from irrelevant given the recent investments.
This post was edited on 3/5/12 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 3/5/12 at 3:08 pm to Tigerfan7218
I have posted in several threads that he should be fired. It would be hypocritical of me to say otherwise.
I could have tolerated 7-9, with some outside factors, such as closing strong, signing Gathers, winning a game in the SECT, making the NIT and winning a few games, etc. I doubt any of those things happen.
I have my doubts on whether he will be fired, so my opinion doesn't really mean anything.
I could have tolerated 7-9, with some outside factors, such as closing strong, signing Gathers, winning a game in the SECT, making the NIT and winning a few games, etc. I doubt any of those things happen.
I have my doubts on whether he will be fired, so my opinion doesn't really mean anything.
Posted on 3/5/12 at 3:10 pm to Bubba Hotep
Sounds about right. The last week or so of this season was unacceptable. I'm not sure what the admin will do though, I'd love to see an up-and-comer come into this program.
Posted on 3/5/12 at 3:47 pm to Bubba Hotep
I posted in several threads that I wanted to see 10 OOC wins and at least 7 to 9 conf wins coming off of two awful seasons. TJ reached those numbers, so I'll stand by argument that he should get one more year to continue improvement. However looking at the 7-9 SEC record is difficult when you know that they were 7-6 at one point before getting blasted on the road by two teams that arguably equal to LSU, but not 20 pts better, and losing at home against the SEC's hottest team (not named UK) after playing great and having a big lead.
If the admin did decide that it's time for a change, then they certainly would be justified. Contrary to what many on here think, the talent level has improved over years 2 & 3. Nevertheless there is just complete apathy in regards to the program, and at least at this point, the fact that LSU only has one guy signed for next year despite having plenty of scholarships available doesn't create excitement or hope for next year. I see alot of post saying we need someone who is "salesman" and has personality. Or we need someone with LA ties. The fact is, LSU basketball just needs a coach who can win consistently. People will come out to watch a winner, regardless of personality (Nick Saban anyone?)
If the admin did decide that it's time for a change, then they certainly would be justified. Contrary to what many on here think, the talent level has improved over years 2 & 3. Nevertheless there is just complete apathy in regards to the program, and at least at this point, the fact that LSU only has one guy signed for next year despite having plenty of scholarships available doesn't create excitement or hope for next year. I see alot of post saying we need someone who is "salesman" and has personality. Or we need someone with LA ties. The fact is, LSU basketball just needs a coach who can win consistently. People will come out to watch a winner, regardless of personality (Nick Saban anyone?)
Posted on 3/5/12 at 3:51 pm to Alt26
Isn't Alleva's current decision (or refusal to make one) a pretty good barometer of his commitment to excellence in basketball?
That will speak volumes, no matter how much noise is made here...
That will speak volumes, no matter how much noise is made here...
Posted on 3/5/12 at 3:55 pm to nitwit
I don't think you can make any assumptions. LSU has nothing to gain by firing him now, rather than next week.
I doubt he gets fired, but if he were, it wouldn't happen until next week IMO.
I doubt he gets fired, but if he were, it wouldn't happen until next week IMO.
Posted on 3/5/12 at 4:01 pm to Bubba Hotep
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I'm also not talking about the fans' commitment, I'm talking about the administration.
these two are pretty much tied to each other...administration is not going to go "all in" on the b-ball program when they know how bandwagon the fans are. And the fans won't ever completely buy-in because they know the next coach will likely be another ho-hum hire.
Posted on 3/5/12 at 4:05 pm to ForeLSU
Football and baseball both suffered significant lapses in attendance during down turns and LSU continued their full support. I expect LSU to do the same for basketball.
Posted on 3/5/12 at 4:19 pm to Bubba Hotep
I think anyone expecting TJ to get fired before this weekend is outta their mind.
Posted on 3/5/12 at 4:27 pm to Tigerfan7218
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it all depends on how we do this weekend and if we end up in the NIT or not. No post-season= Alleva will have some heat on him to make the move
I'll believe it when I see it, and not one second sooner. I think it's 50/50 whether we beat Arkie, and the NIT is probably going to invite us if we beat Arkie but might not if we don't. So, we may get to see whether you're right. This is really the first test of Alleva's coaching hires. Any others he's hired are too early in their careers to make a judgment on them yet, although Nikki Caldwell is looking pretty good so far. I don't think he'll want his first major hire to wind up being a failure, so I think he'll want to give TJ as much of a chance as he possibly can.
Posted on 3/5/12 at 4:30 pm to Bubba Hotep
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I have heard and read people question LSU's commitment to basketball for years. It has nothing to do with the specific moment in time we are in right now.
Well, I certainly can't speak for unnamed and hypothetical people you bring up out of thin air. I can only tell you why I question LSU's commitment to basketball, which is what you asked. You'll have to ask whoever it is you're talking about why they questioned it at some unspecified previous time.
Posted on 3/5/12 at 4:34 pm to Tigerfan7218
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The last week or so of this season was unacceptable. I'm not sure what the admin will do though, I'd love to see an up-and-comer come into this program.
That's what Brady was supposed to be. I think we should either A) go bargain basement and just give up on basketball, or B) go all out, pay a big-time high-profile coach whatever it takes to get him here and just blow the apathy surrounding the program out of the water. That is, assuming Johnson is fired at the end of the season, which I highly doubt will happen.
Posted on 3/5/12 at 4:40 pm to Bubba Hotep
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I don't think you can make any assumptions
I can, obviously. Whether they're warranted may be another question, but I think it's reasonable to assume TJ won't be fired.
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LSU has nothing to gain by firing him now, rather than next week
Except a head start in finding his replacement, getting our name in the news at a time when nobody would dream of mentioning us otherwise. Maybe jolt the players (if they feel any loyalty to TJ) to play inspired for him in the remaining games (assuming his firing is announced now but effective at the end of the season). Possibly generate some interest among LSU fans in the SECT being held in our home state.
With coach firings/changes, the longer you wait, the worse off you are.
Posted on 3/5/12 at 4:43 pm to Nuts4LSU
well done by the OP.... 
Posted on 3/5/12 at 4:50 pm to Nuts4LSU
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go all out, pay a big-time high-profile coach whatever it takes to get him here and just blow the apathy surrounding the program out of the water.
Name me one big time coach that would actually consider leaving wherever they are to come to Baton Rouge.
Posted on 3/5/12 at 4:58 pm to Tigerfan7218
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Name me one big time coach that would actually consider leaving wherever they are to come to Baton Rouge.
Name me a price.
Posted on 3/5/12 at 6:25 pm to Bubba Hotep
how long does it take to determine if someone is a bad hire?
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