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Why do people act like MB has way more experience?
Posted on 10/28/20 at 10:17 am
Posted on 10/28/20 at 10:17 am
Hes started a whopping 2 more games at LSU. Odds are he wont be ready Saturday. So when TJ starts against Auburn the difference will be 1 more game started than TJ. I know MB has been around longer and that last year he had some playing time in mop up duty, but I fail to grasp why "experience" should be a deciding factor in this particular situation.
Posted on 10/28/20 at 10:19 am to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
How the team responds and plays as a unit should be the deciding factor. It TJ lights it up and the team looks to be his then it’s going to be a really tough decision for O.
Posted on 10/28/20 at 10:20 am to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
You don't get that Brennan being developed for 3 years and being in this offense all last year can be an advantage over a true freshman that didn't get much coaching due to covid?
Posted on 10/28/20 at 10:21 am to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
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Why do people act like MB has way more experience?
Because he does? He's been here for over 3 years now, Finley has been here for a few months. He's entered games before this season multiple times, he's been in this offense all of last season.
Not sure how that can be argued. Very weak point you're trying to make there.
The reason some people use to say experience can matter is because it absolutely can. Brennan has been through a lot at this point and knows a lot about what to expect. Finley has 1 game under his belt, saw zero pressure, and they gave him mostly easy short throws. No doubt he was impressive, but you cant expect that to be the case in every game for him, which is where experience comes in when things dont go as planned.
I'm not saying Brennan should or shouldn't start, but the experience edge is obviously in his favor and it absolutely CAN make a difference. We have no idea how Finley would have to adjust a game plan mid game or respond to being pressured. He could respond well, but we dont know that is all because he hasn't experienced that.
This post was edited on 10/28/20 at 10:23 am
Posted on 10/28/20 at 10:22 am to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
I been saying this for months now
Posted on 10/28/20 at 10:24 am to TigerLunatik
I dont. TJ looked great in his first start. Myles looked good. Not hating on Brennan but that extra year doesnt seem to be as beneficial as some would like to make it out.
Sure the gameplans were different but so were the results.
Sure the gameplans were different but so were the results.
This post was edited on 10/28/20 at 10:25 am
Posted on 10/28/20 at 10:24 am to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
Because people like to think that Brennan is owed the starting position just because he's been developed in the system longer which in reality shouldn't have any bearing on who's the starter. If TJ comes out on fire and torches Aub, O will have an interesting situation to figure out
Posted on 10/28/20 at 10:27 am to thunderbird1100
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Brennan has been through a lot at this point
Has he really?
Game experience is much more valuable than clipboard experience. He barely edges him out in this category
This post was edited on 10/28/20 at 10:29 am
Posted on 10/28/20 at 10:28 am to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
Being a quarterback is a hell of a lot more than running and throwing. Especially running a hurry up offense. Most of the checks are made at the line of scrimmage so I would definitely favor someone like Brennan to make those checks.
Posted on 10/28/20 at 10:36 am to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
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Hes started a whopping 2 more games at LSU. Odds are he wont be ready Saturday. So when TJ starts against Auburn the difference will be 1 more game started than TJ. I know MB has been around longer and that last year he had some playing time in mop up duty, but I fail to grasp why "experience" should be a deciding factor in this particular situation.
You know, there used to be a time where it was normal for quarterbacks to sit the bench and learn, then finally get the starting role when they were a junior or even a senior. Why even just two years ago LSU started a quarterback who had been a backup for 3 years. He struggled a bit, then began playing very well in the final half of the season. His final season was an all-time great season.
Being an understudy for 3 years seemed to work for Burrow. Might work for Myles Brennan. Don't underestimate the value of studying, learning how to prepare, and waiting until it is "your time."
Posted on 10/28/20 at 10:37 am to TigerLunatik
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You don't get that Brennan being developed for 3 years and being in this offense all last year can be an advantage over a true freshman that didn't get much coaching due to covid?
Could have fooled me, Brennan still looks very timid and indecisive for being here 3 years
Posted on 10/28/20 at 10:38 am to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
This is Brennans 4th year in the system and Finley a true freshman looks more comfortable than him.
Posted on 10/28/20 at 10:40 am to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
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Has he really?
3+ years here
1+ years in this offense
Appeared in double digit games, made 3 SEC starts, multiple ones in which we relied on him in shootouts
vs.
A guy who has been here for a few months, made 1 start with a simplified playbook and saw no pressure all game and was asked to throw 21 passes in a 52-24 rout.
There's no comparison coming from an EXPERIENCE standpoint, it's a dumb comparison. We can sit here all day and talk about JUST results on the field but arguing against who is more experienced? Come on
I'm just as excited as anyone about TJ's start last weekend but some of the leaps people are making are getting frankly ridiculous, all we found out about Finley is he had 1 great game where he wasn't asked to do much in a blowout win for us where he was almost never pressured. There are multiple other outcomes for other situations, which is where experience CAN come into play.
This post was edited on 10/28/20 at 10:42 am
Posted on 10/28/20 at 10:42 am to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
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I dont. TJ looked great in his first start.
TJ had the massive benefit of Ingram being present opening lanes for the running game.
Also Rosenthal was out at and Wire did a great job at pass protection (zero sacks) that Brennan did not have the benefit of...
There is a lot more to these moving parts than who the QB is...
Brennan has done nothing (yet.. ) to lose the job.
Posted on 10/28/20 at 10:42 am to thunderbird1100
All that experience resulted in him pissing down his leg as a freshman vs bama. Handoffs and knees last year, and a guy who still doesnt look as comfortable as the kid with 1 start...
Posted on 10/28/20 at 10:45 am to TigerDat
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Could have fooled me, Brennan still looks very timid and indecisive for being here 3 years
I would have Agreed with you after the Miss State game but he has gained a lot of confidence vs Vandy and Missouri.
He has been really good, and the staff calls lower % throws for him because they think he can complete them.
Posted on 10/28/20 at 10:47 am to TigerLunatik
quote:yes, that's a slight advantage for Brennan. But the vast majority of it is the play on the field, and that's why freshmen QBs play well, all over the country. And remember, college offenses typically aren't terribly complex.
You don't get that Brennan being developed for 3 years and being in this offense all last year can be an advantage over a true freshman that didn't get much coaching due to covid?
All thing being exactly equal - I'll take the guy with who's been in the system longer. But things are rarely exactly equal, so play the guy who's playing the best.
Posted on 10/28/20 at 10:49 am to SammyTiger
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I would have Agreed with you after the Miss State game but he has gained a lot of confidence vs Vandy and Missouri
He still held the ball too long on many plays against Vandy and Mizzou. Yes he gained some confidence but he is not decisive, he second guesses alot which is clear when he pumps before his throws, alot of times causing them to be late. He seems to wait for the reciever to be open instead of throwing it and trusting the reciever, which it seemed like Finley was doing.
We shall see this week, if Finley continues like he did against SC the I wouldn't want to be the coaches having to make that decision
Posted on 10/28/20 at 10:49 am to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
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All that experience resulted in him pissing down his leg as a freshman vs bama. Handoffs and knees last year, and a guy who still doesnt look as comfortable as the kid with 1 start...
Do you think Myles couldnt have tore it up just as much if not maybe even more so against a defense who doesnt pressure him at all, gives him every underneath throw there is, a defense which finally doesnt get destroyed, receivers who consistently catch their passes and an actual running game?
Trying to compare one game to others directly is just dumb, it was 1 game. It was a very good game for TJ no doubt but he wasnt asked to do much either. Our defense showed up enough to only allow 24 points. Our running game put up almost 300 yards. USC's defense gave him every underneath pass he could put on target as they simply didnt want to get beat over the top. He only completed 1 pass over 20 air yards for 26 yards, they picked him off on another deep pass. He was 1/4 for 26 yards going deep with a pick.
Put him in similar situations to MSU/Mizzou and you probably get much different results, we dont know because TJ has never seen a situation where it's a shootout here, or when we arent taking any pressure off him running the ball, or where the OL isn't giving him all day to throw the ball etc. Not every game is the same.
This post was edited on 10/28/20 at 10:55 am
Posted on 10/28/20 at 10:51 am to klrstix
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Brennan has done nothing (yet.. ) to lose the job
Not every qb that poses their job does, sometimes the next guy just sizes his opportunity and doesn't look back.
TJ has that chance again this weekend
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