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Why Can't Today's DCs Adapt to the New Offenses?
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:40 pm
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:40 pm
Has any one figured it out?
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:41 pm to AlwysATgr
The rules favor offenses mostly.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:43 pm to AlwysATgr
I guess you could have a 4-7 D and take your chances.......but guys like Max will run for 10 every snap.........
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:46 pm to AlwysATgr
too much talent and development from younger age on offensive side of ball
the speed, finesse, routes, etc
the speed, finesse, routes, etc
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:51 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I think we are hitting a tipping point of sorts. We may start seeing creativity defensively that creates issues...it just hasn’t happened yet. I think we are hitting a stride with offenses that someone will break from the traditional defensive mode.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:55 pm to lynxcat
The problem is the offense dictates everything personnel wise. This has of course always been the case but the level of skill at the QB position now for kids coming out of highschool had increased to the point where offensive coaches can push the envelope and maximize offensive production.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:55 pm to AlwysATgr
It's an interesting point I'd like to discuss with a modern defensive coordinator. These shifts ALWAYS are associated with rules changes which seem subtle but can have major implications to creative minds. I know one is the change in the way linemen blocking down field is called which greatly effected the horizontal passing game and the read option game
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:57 pm to AlwysATgr
It's impossible to stop if the OL can go 3 yards downfield and you're still allowed to throw the ball. The NFL only allows 1 yard. The RPO can't be stopped routinely with these rules.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:57 pm to AlwysATgr
I’ll tell you this... given the choice between offense and defense, I would never choose defense as a player or a coach in today’s game. It’s almost like defense is set up to fail.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:59 pm to lynxcat
We (LSU fans) have probably seen as much success against them as any school.
If it was just a matter of talent Bama would be doing it. But Saban has no clue.
If it was just a matter of talent Bama would be doing it. But Saban has no clue.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:02 am to AlwysATgr
Once spreading it out and going fast became the standard instead of being radical it allowed for a rapid evolution that makes things easy for a qb and impossible for a defense. The addition of RPOs made being a shutdown defense that allows 14 or less per game pretty much impossible
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:03 am to JJ27
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It's impossible to stop if the OL can go 3 yards downfield and you're still allowed to throw the ball.
This. Defenses use to be able to read the O-Line and crash the line of scrimmage on running plays. They no longer can.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:05 am to AlwysATgr
Insane how fast people forget Arranda
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:07 am to AlwysATgr
You have to try and copy what Bellicheck is doing in New England. What he was able to do last season in that league is the way but it’ll take some time to catch on.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:14 am to AlwysATgr
I e wondered the same. I think the rules are now tailored to receivers and QB’s being able to complete plays without the D having much impact. Unless the rules change we’re looking at wide open offenses in the foreseeable future.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:14 am to Madking
Great detail there Madking. What exactly did he do?
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:17 am to JJ27
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It's impossible to stop if the OL can go 3 yards downfield and you're still allowed to throw the ball. The NFL only allows 1 yard. The RPO can't be stopped routinely with these rules.
Has this rule changed in the last couple years?
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:17 am to GeorgeTheGreek
The most obvious change was leaving his top corner on an island vs the 2nd WR instead of the #1 guy then running all his traps and doubles towards the #1 WR. The idea is that you can’t really stop the elite players the way people used to but if you can take away everyone else you can narrow your plan and mitigate the damage.
This post was edited on 12/22/20 at 12:20 am
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:30 am to Madking
Offensive holding is never called unless it’s obvious to eighty thousand fans. Most QBs can run and extend plays or have mobility . Receivers are faster and bigger and can out muscle DBs .
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:35 am to Jet Sweep
You’re right, I think of all the rule changes not allowing DBs to jam 5 yards downfield and not allowing LBs to at least bump short crossers has been the most head scratching. I’m not talking about earholing underneath routes but there’s no reason LBs shouldn’t be allowed to push them or put their hands on em. It would actually limit some of the big hits on tiny WRs underneath. Just taking those 2 rules out would bring back a lot of defense and improve the overall product IMO.
This post was edited on 12/22/20 at 12:36 am
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