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re: What the hell is going on with our Baseball program????
Posted on 4/13/11 at 8:49 am to #1 LSU Tiger
Posted on 4/13/11 at 8:49 am to #1 LSU Tiger
they will figure it out! have faith
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Posted on 4/13/11 at 8:55 am to lsufan52
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lsu hasn't been the same since bertman hung it up so just look at the stats pm is not the right fit
We also weren't much of anything before Bertman came to LSU.
I am sorry but there are only a few guys in college baseball history that could be as good as Skip Bertman and SKIP is one of them. That is a very short list.
We as LSU fans must understand this and move on. How long did it take the Bulls to be a winner again after Phil Jackson and MJ left? We will be back on top again and on a consistent basis, we just have to get there first.
How do we get there? Just hanging on until we hit rock bottom and never jumping ship! We have to stick with the team and hope things get better for CPM, whom I think is a good coach, or find someone who can do a better job. I just do not think there are many coaches available that are worthy having to coach in the shadows of Skip. That is hard thing to follow and CPM is doing a great job accepting that fact and trying to play his style of baseball.
So, for now, have faith!
This post was edited on 4/13/11 at 8:57 am
Posted on 4/13/11 at 9:00 am to #1 LSU Tiger
I agree. We lost a lot from the 09 season, but I thought with AR, we would do well in 2010, then he got hurt and the bottom fell out half way thru the season. Then we lost some more players and pitchers and we see what has happened now. At the very least, the assistants have to be fired. I mean if we finish last in the SEC this year after what happened last year, changes need to be made on the coaching staff. If not, then PM needs to go. Sort of what should have happened with GC and the football team after the 2010 season.
Posted on 4/13/11 at 9:12 am to Weaver
I am OK with up and down years, as I dont expect them to be in Omaha each year. Personally, my goal would be to host a regional each year, realizing they might miss that goal occasionally.
But last in the SEC is more than just a down year. Hopefully they can get going and at least end respectably.
But last in the SEC is more than just a down year. Hopefully they can get going and at least end respectably.
Posted on 4/13/11 at 10:04 am to purpleturtle50
Hoops is going to have a harder time maintaining a level of success because of the fact that players can turn pro after one year.
With the three year requirement in baseball, it should be easier to maintain some stability
With the three year requirement in baseball, it should be easier to maintain some stability
Posted on 4/13/11 at 10:07 am to Weaver
I agree...fire the assistants an get new ones.
Posted on 4/13/11 at 10:32 am to CajunFootball
One big winning streak away from 4 losing SEC Regular Seasons in 5 years. As it stands now, he's on his way to his 3rd losing regular season in the SEC out of his 5 years. That's simply not acceptable. There's no arguing otherwise.
He's winning 51% of his games in the SEC over his tenure. You can't live & die on hot streaks & big performances in Hoover. You just can't.
At this point, LSU's winning percentage in the SEC over Maineri's tenure is 7th.
These results are simply unacceptable.
The 2009 National Title is unfortunately at this point the exception that proves the rule with Maineri.
He's winning 51% of his games in the SEC over his tenure. You can't live & die on hot streaks & big performances in Hoover. You just can't.
At this point, LSU's winning percentage in the SEC over Maineri's tenure is 7th.
These results are simply unacceptable.
The 2009 National Title is unfortunately at this point the exception that proves the rule with Maineri.
Posted on 4/13/11 at 10:36 am to GFunk
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One big winning streak away from 4 losing SEC Regular Seasons in 5 years. As it stands now, he's on his way to his 3rd losing regular season in the SEC out of his 5 years. That's simply not acceptable. There's no arguing otherwise.
He's winning 51% of his games in the SEC over his tenure. You can't live & die on hot streaks & big performances in Hoover. You just can't.
At this point, LSU's winning percentage in the SEC over Maineri's tenure is 7th.
These results are simply unacceptable.
The 2009 National Title is unfortunately at this point the exception that proves the rule with Maineri.
So what exactly is your solution?
Posted on 4/13/11 at 10:40 am to #1 LSU Tiger
We were fine last year, IIRC. Not the best in the country.. but definitely good.
Lack of pitching, hitters have no confidence, and sometimes in baseball a slump can turn into a season.. it's just how it is.
I think we definitely need a new hitting coach, though.
Lack of pitching, hitters have no confidence, and sometimes in baseball a slump can turn into a season.. it's just how it is.
I think we definitely need a new hitting coach, though.
This post was edited on 4/13/11 at 10:42 am
Posted on 4/13/11 at 10:45 am to GFunk
While I agree with you, I am not ready to give up on PM. If he changes the assistants then I think he gets three more years.
Either way he gets the McCune/Ross/Gausmen class until he gets either safe forever or fired. So he pretty much has three years to do good or shite might start hitting the fan.
Either way he gets the McCune/Ross/Gausmen class until he gets either safe forever or fired. So he pretty much has three years to do good or shite might start hitting the fan.
Posted on 4/13/11 at 10:45 am to GFunk
So now he gets no credit for 2008? Awesome. But somehow gets stuck with that putrid 2007 team? Talk about twisting numbers how you want to.
The truth is he's had 2 CWS teams in 3.5 years.
He's had 1.5 unacceptable seasons.
The truth is he's had 2 CWS teams in 3.5 years.
He's had 1.5 unacceptable seasons.
Posted on 4/13/11 at 11:08 am to meauxjeaux2
you saying florida baseball never has bad years and bad runs is incredible. that statement is not only completely wrong, it is outrageously wrong. in fact, i don't think florida has ever won a national championship and i can only remember one sec championship. of course, all that is easy to research. one cannot compare the florida baseball program with lsu's. we are having a very bad year and there are reason(s) for it. we can't hit; we have 2 very good pitchers and a slew of mediocre to very bad pitchers. our bullpen stinks. are there lockerroom issues? might be.
This post was edited on 4/13/11 at 11:09 am
Posted on 4/13/11 at 11:15 am to GFunk
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The 2009 National Title is unfortunately at this point the exception that proves the rule with Maineri.
That sure is a lot of stoopid right there. I'm so bummed we won the national championship, now.
Yup, one national title and 3 SEC titles to his credit in 5 seasons. Totally unacceptable.
I smell a smackdown coming against Auburn this weekend.
Posted on 4/13/11 at 11:17 am to TigerCub
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So what exactly is your solution?
Non Negotiable: Mandate the termination of Javy Sanchez, post haste. He's done at LSU. Period.
You have one of two options, & those options MUST be run by the money-men/Athletic Director.
Either:
A.) Move Grewe to hitting coach with a one year choke-chain, & then going out & hiring the best young pitching coach in college baseball, by hook or crook.
B.) Firing Grewe outright, & allowing input into both hires from outside search firms and/or consultants
Posted on 4/13/11 at 11:20 am to LSU GrandDad
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you saying florida baseball never has bad years and bad runs is incredible. that statement is not only completely wrong, it is outrageously wrong.
To back up your point, Florida finished 28-28 in 2006 and 29-30 in 2007.
Posted on 4/13/11 at 11:20 am to GFunk
So your solution is to have an athletic director forcing head coaches to make decisions for their programs? No thanks
Posted on 4/13/11 at 11:25 am to GFunk
Solution is easy.
LSU is very close to being one of the top teams in the country. their losses are just one or two runs/outs away in most games.
LSU is missing the big first base hitter in the middle of the line up. the clark or dean. It wont happen this year.
If you had this guy in the four spot, nola in five, m.m. in three, you would see more runs, more production, and more wins. all the hitters would benefit.
they are really just that guy away. that big first base hitter. he would have accounted for five more wins at least this year.
LSU is very close to being one of the top teams in the country. their losses are just one or two runs/outs away in most games.
LSU is missing the big first base hitter in the middle of the line up. the clark or dean. It wont happen this year.
If you had this guy in the four spot, nola in five, m.m. in three, you would see more runs, more production, and more wins. all the hitters would benefit.
they are really just that guy away. that big first base hitter. he would have accounted for five more wins at least this year.
Posted on 4/13/11 at 11:27 am to Rouge
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building a national champion
Ok I might be mistaken here but weren't Ryan Schrimpf, Blake Dean, Jared Mitchel, Louis Coleman, Micah Gibbs, Sean Ochinko (maybe transferred from JC) and probably a couple others from Smokes days at LSU??? Those were the guys who carried LSU to the NC. Only Mikie Mahtook played a prominent roll on that NC team. So did he build a NC, or just coach one?
Posted on 4/13/11 at 11:33 am to vjp819
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Ryan Schrimpf, Blake Dean, Jared Mitchel, Louis Coleman, Micah Gibbs, Sean Ochinko (maybe transferred from JC) and probably a couple others from Smokes days at LSU???
"Schrimpf"
Dean
Mitchell
Ochinko
were all FR on PM's first team.
Gibbs didnt even come until the next year
Posted on 4/13/11 at 11:49 am to vjp819
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Ryan Schrimpf, Blake Dean, Jared Mitchel, Louis Coleman, Micah Gibbs, Sean Ochinko (maybe transferred from JC) and probably a couple others from Smokes days at LSU
Of those listed, only Dean and Coleman were Smoke guys. Dean was recruited as a pitcher, ony moved to being a hitter once Mainieri got here...... and Mainieri totally changed Coleman's style, arm angle, release, etc. to make him into what he was.
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