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re: what is moffit doing
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
Dude, where are you getting these 40 times from? None of them match any of the sites I am looking at or my memory from the past few years. I am seeing Bowe at 4.51 on multiple sites.
JV was a lazy guy who sucked his last three years at LSU. Dorsey was a 300 pound defensive tackle, so that is hardly an example of a guy who is bogged down. He is a great football player, but not an amazing athlete.
I am seeing Clayton at 4.67 so I am wrong about him, but the other 5 guys all ran under 4.45, while Bowe had a very good time for his size as well.
Other than Laron and possibly Addai, I can't think of another guy we had that was an absolute stud at the combine, that isn't exactly strange. By definition, there are only going to be 10-12 players who are going to stand out at the combine. These guys are competing against each other, so it's a zero-sum game. It's pretty much impossible for a school to have more than 1 freak every year for an extended time. If any school had three guys in the combine who were running sub-4.4 times, lifting 225 pounds 30 times, and showing 40 inch verticals, there would be a lot of questions surrounding that school.
JV was a lazy guy who sucked his last three years at LSU. Dorsey was a 300 pound defensive tackle, so that is hardly an example of a guy who is bogged down. He is a great football player, but not an amazing athlete.
I am seeing Clayton at 4.67 so I am wrong about him, but the other 5 guys all ran under 4.45, while Bowe had a very good time for his size as well.
Other than Laron and possibly Addai, I can't think of another guy we had that was an absolute stud at the combine, that isn't exactly strange. By definition, there are only going to be 10-12 players who are going to stand out at the combine. These guys are competing against each other, so it's a zero-sum game. It's pretty much impossible for a school to have more than 1 freak every year for an extended time. If any school had three guys in the combine who were running sub-4.4 times, lifting 225 pounds 30 times, and showing 40 inch verticals, there would be a lot of questions surrounding that school.
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Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:38 pm to L S Usetheforce
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Yet we rank 4th or 5th among starters in the NFL
who all is a full time starter?
JR
Bowe
James
Laron
Peterman (?)
Kyle Williams doesn't anymore...that workout warrior from NCState surpassed him
Blue Gay doesn't when the Saints are healthy at CB
Whitworth doesn't when the Bengles are healthy at OT
Spears rotates in and out
Addai is in a 2-back offense
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:38 pm to L S Usetheforce
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NFL teams could choose not to go. it's not a required event. it is something they pay to attend
Why wouldn't a NFL entity want to surrond itself with 150 of the best propects in the country. This isn't helping your cause.
Most teams utilize this time to look at the numbers, I'm not denying this. My point is you feel the numbers from this combine ultimately set your fate as a draft prospect. I say bullshite. It's a mere piece of a huge puzzle.
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:39 pm to Sammich
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. He has no knowledge of anything about LSU Football Strength & Conditioning program(s).
i do know that bill parcells called out bradie james and marcus spears as both being very weak as rookies
are you going to argue with bill parcells?
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:39 pm to L S Usetheforce
slowflow i would pick the same guy as any other head football coach lucky for us though that guy loves and is loved in Baton Rouge. 
Coach Moffit is the deal and its amazing that on this entire board thier is about 3 or 4 of yall that think yall are right and everyone else is wrong. Just look at how much better our program has been since he got here in 2000
Coach Moffit is the deal and its amazing that on this entire board thier is about 3 or 4 of yall that think yall are right and everyone else is wrong. Just look at how much better our program has been since he got here in 2000
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
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no most thought mid 4.5s
Quit bending reality to match your opinion. Every draft site listed Jackson as SLOW before his 40 time. A slow zone CB out of college would be 4.7ish. See: D. Hookfin, drafted as a CB in the late rounds while running a 4.8. Chevis runs a low 4.6 and gets drafted in a decent spot by the Falcons.
4.65 is not slow for a RB that is expected to not be terribly athletic. Unathletic RBs succeed in the NFL running 4.7s and 4.8s.
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:40 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:There are those two crystal trophies, for starters . . .
I would like to believe I am wrong and would gladly take any solid evidence to prove otherwise
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:40 pm to L S Usetheforce
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who all is a full time starter?
JR
Bowe
James
Laron
Peterman (?)
Your kidding right or you can't name any player past 2002? How bout Ryan Clark, Fanenca, Kevin Mawae, Corey Webster........
Are you fricking kidding me dude.
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:41 pm to Keys Open Doors
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I am seeing Bowe at 4.51 on multiple sites.
that was from LSU's pro day. he ran a bunch of 4.6s, 1 4.5 and boom, he's a "4.5" guy
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I am seeing Clayton at 4.67 so I am wrong about him
he ran a 4.71 at the combine...went to a 4.61 at LSU's pro day
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If any school had three guys in the combine who were running sub-4.4 times, lifting 225 pounds 30 times, and showing 40 inch verticals, there would be a lot of questions surrounding that school.
some schools put out some straight up studs pretty much year in, year out. look at Texas
hell even Ohio State has a bunch of studs most years
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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and Glenn was injured before the season as well though he did come back and play he played on the cheifs no one could have succeeded on that def.
but he also had a horrible workout
Was well known that he had an injury leading up to the combine and pro days.
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:42 pm to L S Usetheforce
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My point is you feel the numbers from this combine ultimately set your fate as a draft prospect
no
they set your fate as an athlete
some guys can be average athletes and turn that into a good NFL career. these guys are the vast minority
This post was edited on 2/23/09 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
the most important part of the combine is the personal interviews. Not the #s ESPN and rantards are the only people who dont believe this
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:43 pm to Tigercat
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Every draft site listed Jackson as SLOW before his 40 time
and he ran a horribly slow 40 time for a CB, so what's your point?
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:If I was trying to hire a workout coordinator for NFL combines, maybe the UT guy. But if I am looking for someone to help me win college football games, why would I bother with how they develop players for the NFL? Why wouldn't I just look at how much success they've had in helping programs win college football games?
would you take moffit over, say, UT's S/C coach? if you had no allegiance to the program, just development of guys and how they develop for the NFL, who would you pick?
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:43 pm to L S Usetheforce
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How bout Ryan Clark, Fanenca, Kevin Mawae, Corey Webster
well faneca and mawae are at the end of their careers. mawae was hurt for a chunk of last year also
forgot about webster
i try to forget clark. he's just such a dirty player. he makes laron look like an angel
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:44 pm to Tiger in NY
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Was well known that he had an injury leading up to the combine and pro days.
he had problems found but they were latent problems, not ones that would hurt his performance
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i try to forget clark. he's just such a dirty player. he makes laron look like an angel
Jesus, so do you want me to list off 5 more for you?
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:44 pm to LSU3
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ESPN and rantards are the only people who dont believe this
the draft disagrees with you EVERY year
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
Holy hell...can we nominate this for the "ranter thread of the year award"? Calling Dorsey a bust for not single-handedly turning around the <b>Chiefs</b> defense...wow, just wow. I guess Sapp was a bust too in his first year? 
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:45 pm to King Joey
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But if I am looking for someone to help me win college football games, why would I bother with how they develop players for the NFL?
because they both play football. you'd expect the requirements for the players to be at least similar
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