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re: What is a acceptable record for Coach Ed Orgeron this year?
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:08 pm to therick711
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:08 pm to therick711
I think we will win 10,with a few breaks 11. we have the best OC/DC combo since Jimbo and Muschamp.
I'll be happy getting to 11 wins. today's 11 win cfb season is the 1980-2000 10 win season.
I'll be happy getting to 11 wins. today's 11 win cfb season is the 1980-2000 10 win season.
This post was edited on 7/12/17 at 1:10 pm
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Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:09 pm to Rickdaddy4188
If LSU becomes the first team to prove head coaches don't matter, that should really shake up the market prices on head coaches going forward. It would be a paradigm shift that the game hasn't seen since the advent of the spread concept.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:10 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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In year one 9-3 with an improved offense is acceptable
What? Are they going to fire him if he loses 3 games in his first year? NO. Are you going to give up LSU because they lost 3 games? NO. It's not ideal but it's plenty "acceptable." You'll complain and yell on tRant and look forward to next year like you do every season.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:11 pm to therick711
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LSU becomes the first team to prove head coaches don't matter, that should really shake up the market prices on head coaches going forward. It would be a paradigm shift that the game hasn't seen since the advent of the spread concept.
I think the lesson won't be head coaches don't matter it will be that having 2 great coordinators matters as much as having a good coach IN THE SHORT term anyway.
This post was edited on 7/12/17 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:12 pm to therick711
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LSU becomes the first team to prove head coaches don't matter, that should really shake up the market prices on head coaches going forward. It would be a paradigm shift that the game hasn't seen since the advent of the spread concept.
It will be interesting to watch, at least. That said, I don't think Alleva is playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:12 pm to tgerb8
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What? Are they going to fire him if he loses 3 games in his first year? NO. Are you going to give up LSU because they lost 3 games? NO. It's not ideal but it's plenty "acceptable." You'll complain and yell on tRant and look forward to next year like you do every season.
It's just funny seeing the rant finally admit that they are ok with losing 3 games a year as long as we do it passing the ball instead of running it.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:12 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Auburn had Gus, Lashlee and Muschamp and went 7-6 (2-6). It's going to be a mountain to climb to break that paradigm.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:14 pm to tgerb8
It's trajectory. I get that bottom line is W-L, but I think AD wants to see that the appropriate steps are taken to:
1. Operate an offense that attacks defenses weaknesses and makes in game adjustments
2. Continue to field a defense that plays at a high level
3. Maximize the performance of players
4. Manage any off field issues appropriately
5. Recruit elite players
6. Correct deficiencies in special teams
7. Represent the program in a manner which draws positive attention to the institution
8. Manage coaching staff effectively
I think these are the benchmarks that LSU is looking for and if achieved, winning will take care of itself. That being said, I see LSU admin looking at trajectory for the team this year. Next year its going to be how the team finishes.
1. Operate an offense that attacks defenses weaknesses and makes in game adjustments
2. Continue to field a defense that plays at a high level
3. Maximize the performance of players
4. Manage any off field issues appropriately
5. Recruit elite players
6. Correct deficiencies in special teams
7. Represent the program in a manner which draws positive attention to the institution
8. Manage coaching staff effectively
I think these are the benchmarks that LSU is looking for and if achieved, winning will take care of itself. That being said, I see LSU admin looking at trajectory for the team this year. Next year its going to be how the team finishes.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:14 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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I love how you now change the narrative. for the last 7 years youve been running that dick sucker saying miles is the only thing holding lsu back and now that he is gone you actually want to use the logic I've been using?eat a Volvo full of dicks. I'm done responding to you.
Absolutely hilarious aand so true!!!!!
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:14 pm to axd9142a
He can win maybe 8 games at the least and still keep his job, but he should immediately be on the hot seat for results for next year. If he does worse than that then he should be fired.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:19 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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It's just funny seeing the rant finally admit that they are ok with losing 3 games a year as long as we do it passing the ball instead of running it.
Mehh. We're probably just taking the word "acceptable" to mean two different things. I've been accused of being too literal. And my thoughts are nothing drastic would change (thus everything was accepted) if we lose 3.
Yeah. I want to win the SEC West, The SEC, the championship and then fire the coach like any self respecting LSU fan.
But 9-3 with signs of improvement and what could very possibly be the #1 class next year, there will be real reason for optimism.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:19 pm to therick711
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Auburn had Gus, Lashlee and Muschamp and went 7-6 (2-6). It's going to be a mountain to climb to break that paradigm.
Yeah but I'm not sold on Gus being this offensive genius like everyone else. that was Gus' offense. not really his coordinator's right
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:20 pm to tgerb8
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I want to win the SEC West, The SEC, the championship and then fire the coach like any self respecting LSU fan.
I kneel and pledge fealty to you sir. lead us.
This post was edited on 7/12/17 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:21 pm to tgerb8
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what could very possibly be the #1 class next year
2018? We won't finish in the top 5. If you're talking about 2019, I haven't looked into that class much yet.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:23 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Yeah but I'm not sold on Gus being this offensive genius like everyone else. that was Gus' offense. not really his coordinator's right
OK, Bobby Bowden had Jimbo Fisher and Mickey Andrews in 2009. They went 7-6 (4-4). Over the three years they had this combination, they went 7-6, 9-4, 7-6.
This post was edited on 7/12/17 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:24 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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today's 11 win cfb season is the 1980-2000 10 win season.
I said basically the same thing a few weeks ago and got slammed.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:26 pm to BayouBengals18
yeah. 2019. sorry.
Check out the this thread on the recruiting board.
Looking at a real possibility of like 7 - 5 stars in state.
LINK
Check out the this thread on the recruiting board.
Looking at a real possibility of like 7 - 5 stars in state.
LINK
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:30 pm to Freauxzen
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11 is great. 10 is good. 9 is floor, but concerning. Anything less is a disaster of a hire.
Pretty simple stuff. The whole point of this 'hire' was to improve. We're already conceding a decline.
Whats the freaking point?
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:32 pm to tgerb8
To me it's much more of an issue of how we lost than the lose itself. If CEO loses four games because we straight up get beat then I'd be fine with that(though I don't see that happening). I'm just tired if losing for stupid coaching reasons *cough cough clock management*
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:35 pm to therick711
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If LSU becomes the first team to prove head coaches don't matter, that should really shake up the market prices on head coaches going forward. It would be a paradigm shift that the game hasn't seen since the advent of the spread concept
If LSU does well next year, they need to think seriously about moving the coach responsible for the success to the HC spot.
I don't see the point of a CEO model when you've identified the coach with the talent. Sign him up because your luck with replacements will eventually run out.
Keeping instead the guy that has the most easily approximated skill (recruiting, motivation) is backwards.
This post was edited on 7/12/17 at 1:45 pm
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