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stephendomalley
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what i like about O
I support coach O because he is our coach. i'm not giving him a blank check - he must perform. I wanted jimbo, not herman so much because it was obvious he wanted the Texas job, but Ed was not my first, second, or third pick. But, he got the job.

the one thing about him is he can recognize problems, like the need for strength in the trenches, the need to develop a qb and a passing game, and he is trying to do something about it. will he be successful? I would hope and pray so, but there are no guarantees.

I understand some of the vitriol on here - a large part is due no doubt because people are frustrated about being wrong - last year after the rough start the o-negatives were guaranteeing a 6-6 or worse record. you didn't want lsu to lose, but ed's failure, which you're convinced is bound to happen, should happen sooner rather than later so we can get back to winning championships.

now, I see the predictions for 6-6 and 7-5 again. there is a huge part of the fanbase that is terrified that we will do better than that because the Corch will get more time.

the minds are made up - he's a loser and the worst choice for HC in the universe, so let's get on with it. he has his positives and negatives like anyone else, so i'm just gonna chill and try to enjoy the ride.

btw - I think 9-3 next year, and if our qb/passing game turns it on we could do better.


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re: what i like about O
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will he be successful? I would hope and pray so,


Just like him

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btw - I think 9-3 next year, and if our qb/passing game turns it on we could do better.



If If If If


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dgnx6
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re: what i like about O
I understand the delusion by people like you.

You are so afraid of being wrong, you'll blindly follow a loser.


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No gymnastics, no care.


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Stud Bud
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re: what i like about O
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now, I see the predictions for 6-6 and 7-5 again. there is a huge part of the fanbase that is terrified that we will do better than that because the Corch will get more time.


I'm not terrified of this because I don't get worked up either way.

But we are going to go 7-5 next year. The running game will be considerably worse which will put more pressure on a young and inexperienced QB.

That will lead to the D having to be out on the field most of the game.

Just get ready to dig in next year.


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re: what i like about O
Sorry. Right off the the bat he has 3 losses guaranteed. He will screw up 2 or 3 others.


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SammyTiger
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re: what i like about O
I am Gonna disagree with you.

He doesn’t recognize problems till they are hitting him in the face.

We should have taken care of the trenches LAST a year. But we recruited 0 JUCO OL or DL.

He has over looked CB this year and now we have 4 (maybe 3) scholarship CBS on roster. Because we recruited 1 CB and missed. That’s an issue.

I dont Think he’s done anything to improve QB play. We hired an OC who hasn’t developed a QB since that guy a UGA in the early 90s. We hired a second WR coach. We recruited 0 QBs this year.

The vitriol is because we went 2-4 vs teams with winning records last year. 9-4 is better than 7-6 but its still not expectations. We wanted Lea fired after a 9-3 season that should have been 10-3


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Goldrush25
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now, I see the predictions for 6-6 and 7-5 again. there is a huge part of the fanbase that is terrified that we will do better than that because the Corch will get more time.


Is Orgeron a championship caliber winning coach, yes or no? There is no wait and see. This is something we have enough evidence to know right now. Is his career track congruent with that of a championship winning coach?

If you can honestly answer yes, then there's a high probability that you're an idiot but I'd at least say you are sticking by what you believe in. If the answer is no, why is he here?


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Nix to Twillie
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think 9-3 next year,


So another ho hum average year where we really accomplish nothing of significance.


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Mo Jeaux
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the one thing about him is he can recognize problems, like the need for strength in the trenches, the need to develop a qb and a passing game, and he is trying to do something about it.


Meh.


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the one thing about him is he can recognize problems

I disagree, but even if he could, for the sake of argument, he has no idea how to correct said problems.


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i'm not giving him a blank check - he must perform.


What is "perform," and when does it matter? Is wasting a million dollars on a bad OC hire "performing?" Lowest recruiting ranking years, is that performing? When is this mythical timeline?

This comment works for a new hire, not a hire who's been in charge for 18 months with largely the same staff as his predecessor.

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the one thing about him is he can recognize problems


He doesn't even know the kind of offense he wants to run, doesn't hire for specificity, so I don't think he knows the "problem" of the offense to being with.

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I understand some of the vitriol on here - a large part is due no doubt because people are frustrated about being wrong - last year after the rough start the o-negatives were guaranteeing a 6-6 or worse record. you didn't want lsu to lose, but ed's failure, which you're convinced is bound to happen, should happen sooner rather than later so we can get back to winning championships.


Last year was average/mediocre it wasn't a success and it's wrong to paint it that way. Just because he "rebounded" he still put us in that hole to rebound from.

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now, I see the predictions for 6-6 and 7-5 again. there is a huge part of the fanbase that is terrified that we will do better than that because the Corch will get more time.



Too broad. "Doing better" scares some yes, because....

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btw - I think 9-3 next year, and if our qb/passing game turns it on we could do better.


Anything between 7 and 9 wins will keep O here indefinitely with this attitude. There's a difference between doing better than 7-5/6-6 and winning 11+ games.

10 wins is again, an average/slight improvement but still below his predecessor's win rate.

But I think everyone wants to see O win 11+ games.

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so let's get on with it. he has his positives and negatives like anyone else, so i'm just gonna chill and try to enjoy the ride.


That's fine, but people aren't wrong for "not chilling." "Chilling" is going to contribute to the decline.

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stephendomalley
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re: what i like about O
if you guys are right, you've got nothing to worry about. you just have to wait it out.

there is no need to hate on me. football is a diversion, it's not life. if everyone is trying hard, I can get behind that.

if O fails like you predict, I will have no problem replacing him without delay.


SammyTiger
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if you guys are right, you've got nothing to worry about. you just have to wait it out.


Except having to watch our shitty football team suck.


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TigersFan64
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re: what i like about O
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the one thing about him is he can recognize problems, like the need for strength in the trenches,


This is a real positive under O, the fact that he recognizes the need for depth on the offensive and defensive lines, and actually bringing in guys who are suited to playing offensive tackle. I am very pleased with his recruiting in this area, so far.

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btw - I think 9-3 next year, and if our qb/passing game turns it on we could do better.



The schedule is such a monster this year, I am not expecting a great season, something like 8-4 at best. However, I agree with you about the QB position...IF Brennan comes in and plays very well and proves he can win some games with his arm, the season could get interesting. But that's a big "if." We will see.
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lsu2006
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if you guys are right, you've got nothing to worry about. you just have to wait it out.


It isn't about being right. Maybe it is to you. To me, it's about not wanting to see my team go down the tubes/move further and further away from the top of the heap in CFB.


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I20goon
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The running game will be considerably worse which will put more pressure on a young and inexperienced QB.
I see that very likely. Why....
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He doesn’t recognize problems till they are hitting him in the face.
because that is true.

There is a chance of CEH (and Ducre?) plus Cregg/more experienced OL prevent that.

But if you do wait until it's slapping you in the face, it's unlikely going to happen.


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SammyTiger
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re: what i like about O
Recognizing problems is easy

It’s not hard to tell you have no DL depth when you’re playing 3 DL in a game

If he was good at spotting problems we would have gone after some JUCO DL last season.

But we didn’t

Spotting problems would mean we go after multiple CB this year. We got 0.

O is at LSU because Les saw that we weren’t getting the job done recruiting DL.


TigersFan64
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Spotting problems would mean we go after multiple CB this year. We got 0.


You are definitely right about that. Not taking Mario Goodrich when the opportunity was there is just plain stupidity. I am really bemused by Coach O's statement that they were only going to sign "one cornerback" in 2018. WTF???


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Mudminnow
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A&M will be better
FL will improve

LSU OL will not have depth as anticipated.

CB- one injury from disaster

I just don't see only 3 losses. We know Bama is going to run up the score to make a statement.


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