- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
What does this hire say about LSU's status as a football program?
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:11 pm
Before answering, what did these hires say about the status of these teams, who are all top 5 teams right now:
Bama - Price/Shula
Ohio St - Luke freaking Fickell
Michigan - Brady Hoke
And bonus points for UF hiring a coach from Colorado St with yellow teeth.
Point is, when it comes to top notch programs looking for a new coach, this board clearly loses sight of the luck factor. Bama literally lucked into Nick Saban. Not getting a big name is more a function of bad luck than the downfall of the program.
We ran into a situation where there is 1 hot name, and he's a Texas guy in the year/week that Texas fired their coach. But again, all of these elite programs just not too long ago were in similar situations hiring very meh coaches who were all pretty shitty.
Bama - Price/Shula
Ohio St - Luke freaking Fickell
Michigan - Brady Hoke
And bonus points for UF hiring a coach from Colorado St with yellow teeth.
Point is, when it comes to top notch programs looking for a new coach, this board clearly loses sight of the luck factor. Bama literally lucked into Nick Saban. Not getting a big name is more a function of bad luck than the downfall of the program.
We ran into a situation where there is 1 hot name, and he's a Texas guy in the year/week that Texas fired their coach. But again, all of these elite programs just not too long ago were in similar situations hiring very meh coaches who were all pretty shitty.
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 1:12 pm
30
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:12 pm to shel311
It says that UT is willing to pay to be elite and LSU is not.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:15 pm to shel311
Hiring Ed Orgeron under the current circumstances must be views as the failure that it is. That said, winning will cure that very nicely.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:15 pm to shel311
quote:
Ohio St - Luke freaking Fickell
Jim Tressel resigned in May.
Did you seriously expect Ohio State to hire a legitimate coach during that three month window leading up to fall camp? They had not choice but to appoint an interim for the time being.
This is frickin' stupid.
quote:
Bama - Price
Mike Price won two Pac-10 titles and had three ten-win seasons at a historically mediocre program.
He was already a head coach for 22 years when he was hired by Alabama.
Culturally speaking, the hire made little sense. But Price was a well-established coach who at least had some monumental achievements on his resume.
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:15 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
Can you tell me what Tom Herman has done to be considered elite?
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:15 pm to League Champs
We are about to shock the world.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:16 pm to athletemed
Been a full time HC with a winning record to start.
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:16 pm to shel311
generally speaking, when you have to fire a coach, your program is not performing at an elite level. kind of a dumb thread
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:17 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
That is considered elite? Ok.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:18 pm to lsufball19
quote:Not performing at an elite level for a time does not mean you're not an elite program. Kind of a dumb point to make.
generally speaking, when you have to fire a coach, your program is not performing at an elite level. kind of a dumb thread
The University of Texas is an elite college football program right now. Bama was too even after a few years of struggling. Don't kid yourself into thinking they weren't. Or else, why did Saban choose to go to Bama? Exactly
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:19 pm to athletemed
quote:
Can you tell me what Tom Herman has done to be considered elite?
His status as elite is certainly debatable. Ed's status as mediocre is not.
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:20 pm to shel311
It says we're happy being 7-4 and never beating Alabama ever again.
It says we think of our football program the same way we think ofor our basketball program.
It says we think of our football program the same way we think ofor our basketball program.
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:20 pm to shel311
quote:
We ran into a situation where there is 1 hot name, and he's a Texas guy in the year/week that Texas fired their coach.
Herman isn't the problem
Jimbo isn't the problem
it's the 100 or so superior options between those 2 and O that are the problem
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:21 pm to Number 31
quote:You think if Orgeron loses 4 games every year and never beats Bama that he'll be around in 4-5 years?
It says we're happy being 7-4 and never beating Alabama ever again.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:21 pm to athletemed
Nah. But I don't think you could consider Saban elite when we hired him from MSU.
He's certainly an up and comer though.
He's certainly an up and comer though.
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:21 pm to shel311
The difference is those coaches you listed werent 55 year old career dline coaches.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Fair point. But don't kid yourself. Any other name than Jimbo/Herman...and I'm talking about realistic options...and this board is still in meltdown mode/the program is on the downfall mode.
Herman isn't the problem
Jimbo isn't the problem
it's the 100 or so superior options between those 2 and O that are the problem
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:22 pm to shel311
quote:
You think if Orgeron loses 4 games every year and never beats Bama that he'll be around in 4-5 years?
Sure. He's one of us, so it's okay when he does it.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:22 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
quote:
Nah. But I don't think you could consider Saban elite when we hires him from MSU.
He was a very successful nfl defensive coordinator for 4 years before msu.
Page 1 of 6
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News