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re: What backfield is better than LSU's?

Posted on 7/9/08 at 3:11 pm to
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 7/9/08 at 3:11 pm to
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Just went back and checked the stats and of course I'm right on this:
KW, RM, CS combined stats: 150 att 6.9 ypg 13 TD
OUs Murray: 127 att 6 ypg 13 TD - and he wasn't even the starter
When you combine him and Bradford vs new QB for LSU, OU gets the edge. On RB depth and versatility, LSU may be better but only a hopeless homer would take Lee/Hatch over Bradford.




how bout you add in the yards.
murray- 764 yds
kw, rm, cs - 1,032 yds.
an dont exclude t. holliday - 364 yds and 2 tds.



and bradford had 31 car for 7 yards and no tds!! how do u consider him a running threat.
If Hatch starts i expect him to atleast be as good of a runner as Flynn who had 215 yds and 4 tds.

Posted by bfniii
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Posted on 7/9/08 at 3:11 pm to
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You must have missed Havili last year.
johnson came on STRONG at the end of the season. havili is awesome but he's not head and shoulders above johnson, at least not last season.

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You also say that McKnight is another Holliday? You must have also missed McKnight as her got in his groove the last 1/3 of the season.
there's no doubt that mcknight is more the typical football player build. but trindon can definitely hold his own against mcknight when it comes to game-breaking plays.
Posted by bfniii
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Posted on 7/9/08 at 3:15 pm to
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Just went back and checked the stats and of course I'm right on this:
KW, RM, CS combined stats: 150 att 6.9 ypg 13 TD
OUs Murray: 127 att 6 ypg 13 TD - and he wasn't even the starter
When you combine him and Bradford vs new QB for LSU, OU gets the edge. On RB depth and versatility, LSU may be better but only a hopeless homer would take Lee/Hatch over Bradford.
when you compare running backs, ou isn't nearly as good as lsu. not even close. if you disagree, break out the depth charts with stats.
Posted by jledet
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Posted on 7/9/08 at 3:16 pm to
i love lsu backfield it presents so many problems when you figure in kw cs rm and th, but UGA hands down when you think moreno, and king i know king hasnt prove anything but who was knowshon moreno last preseason??? no one had him listed as an all sec back, but the difference maker to me is brennan southerland the best fullback in the country. uga is one of the few teams in the sec to use the I. no one is a better lead blocker
Posted by bfniii
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Posted on 7/9/08 at 3:18 pm to
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UGA hands down when you think moreno, and king i know king hasnt prove anything
ok, king hasn't proven anything, but you know that uga is hands down better than lsu? lsu's backs have proven their ability with actual game time. uga can't say the same, at least not to the extent lsu can.
Posted by jledet
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Posted on 7/9/08 at 3:21 pm to
keep reading ... knowshon by hisself has more yard than the lsu backs
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 7/9/08 at 3:22 pm to
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i love lsu backfield it presents so many problems when you figure in kw cs rm and th, but UGA hands down when you think moreno, and king i know king hasnt prove anything but who was knowshon moreno last preseason??? no one had him listed as an all sec back, but the difference maker to me is brennan southerland the best fullback in the country. uga is one of the few teams in the sec to use the I. no one is a better lead blocker



so you will take a top notch back(moreno), an unproven back with upside(king), and a good fb(southerland) over 4 really good backs and a great blocking fb. not me.

and i dont think moreno is head and shoulders over williams either
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 7/9/08 at 3:23 pm to
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knowshon by hisself has more yard than the lsu backs


he was the starter!! if you add in our starter last year; Hester, he didnt.
Posted by Cussian
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Posted on 7/9/08 at 3:24 pm to
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when you compare running backs, ou isn't nearly as good as lsu. not even close. if you disagree, break out the depth charts with stats.

I agreed with you in my last post but the question is about backfield, not just RBs. In the big picture, OU and LSU are very close and possibly OU better if you include QBs. I don't think any team in the country is as versatile and deep as LSU runningbacks (if you inclued TH and QJ and Ridley), but you can't argue Lee is even close to Bradford at this point. And anybody who says our best RB is better than any 1 RB in the country based on past performance is just nuts. Maybe after this season we can say that, but not now.

Nevermind, I bet somebody here could.
Posted by jledet
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Posted on 7/9/08 at 3:26 pm to
i love our backfield dont get me wrong but knowshon rushed for 1334 and 14 tds but he didnt start till the vandy game, the 7th game of the year. kw is good but he hasnt come close to these numbers remember uga has had the depth at rb just like us so dont give me that kw doesnt get the carries
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 7/9/08 at 3:28 pm to
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but you can't argue Lee is even close to Bradford at this point


once again Bradford: 31 car. 7 yds. and no tds!!
are you trying to say he is a good runner.

Lee is not our starter btw. Hatch is a better runner than bradford
Posted by Cussian
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Posted on 7/9/08 at 3:30 pm to
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once again Bradford: 31 car. 7 yds. and no tds!!
are you trying to say he is a good runner.

Lee is not our starter btw. Hatch is a better runner than bradford

Youre missing the point: QBs are part of the backfield. Check on Bradford's passing stats and compare them to Hatch.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 7/9/08 at 3:35 pm to
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oure missing the point: QBs are part of the backfield.


sorry bud, yur missing the point. the whole thread was on running backs and rushing yards!
Posted by jledet
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Posted on 7/9/08 at 3:36 pm to
tamu has a good combo, mcgee, lane, and goodson
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 7/9/08 at 3:38 pm to
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Check on Bradford's passing stats and compare them to Hatch.


um... doesn't hatch have 2 passes thrown the WHOLE year?
Posted by Cussian
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Posted on 7/9/08 at 3:43 pm to
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sorry bud, yur missing the point. the whole thread was on running backs and rushing yards!


No, your thread was about running backs and rushing yards. Thread title says "backfield". A quarterback is part of the backfield and their stats and abilities should be included. I agree with you if you are only talking about runningbacks. Then LSU is the shite.
Posted by Cussian
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Posted on 7/9/08 at 3:44 pm to
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um... doesn't hatch have 2 passes thrown the WHOLE year?

My point exactly. You could include Lee's stats while you're at it.
Posted by Cussian
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Posted on 7/9/08 at 3:47 pm to
Doc, didn't you start this thread? Do you mean to include QB when you talk about backfield? Maybe I got it wrong.
Posted by The Ramp
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Posted on 7/9/08 at 3:47 pm to
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Clemson


two votes here
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
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Posted on 7/9/08 at 4:02 pm to
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agree. while there is no doubt that usc has the horses, let's not go making them out to be BETTER than lsu. they aren't. at most, it's even.


USC's are better. At most LSU is 2nd best of the two team's backfields.
This post was edited on 7/9/08 at 4:06 pm
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