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Y.A. Tittle
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We shouldn't have a HC that most top 20 teams wouldn't want as their OC or DC
Agree or disagree?

The choice is dependent upon his specialty, but he should clearly be accomplished enough that he would be generally desired as one or the other, if he wasn't a head coach.

To me it seems like a pretty simple proposition to me.


TheHat7
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re: We shouldn't have a HC that most top 20 teams wouldn't want as their OC or DC
I somewhat agree. Look at Kirby. He's got that defense plying lights out. So as long as he finds the right OC they will be solid. However there's quite a few coaches that never were coordinators. For ex. Dabo, Fleck, Meyer.. to name a few. So it's not crazy that it happened here. I think it's more about Lsu firing a 134-35 or whatever and didn't search for a more proven HC. O failed at ole miss and most ppl think his 2nd shot should have been an fcs school. Meyer proved himself at Utah before they were P5. Fleck at WMU.. dabo was similar situation as O. And he came out the gates struggling. That's why imo O deserves a fair shot. One year isn't enough to fire him over. Unless he does winless n sec or something. O can identify talent on the front 7 and oline. He needs time. He still 9-3 as Lsu HC 1-0 in bowls. Signed a damn strong class last feb. Lots of positives to still consider


LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
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re: We shouldn't have a HC that most top 20 teams wouldn't want as their OC or DC
No one had wanted O for a head coach the past twelve years but for Alleva. If Alleva hadn't hired him, he would still be a DL coach somewhere.

One of the most valuable teams in college football went cheap and O is what cheap gives you. Rather than crushing Syracuse we wimp out a win in Tiger stadium and rather than going toe to toe with Mississippi State we get bent over and used.


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Sterling Archer
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re: We shouldn't have a HC that most top 20 teams wouldn't want as their OC or DC
My thing is we always have to rely on Orgeron making the right coordinator hires. It was the same thing with Les Miles. If we are ever in a position where Orgeron is the best coach for LSU football we are in trouble.


Y.A. Tittle
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re: We shouldn't have a HC that most top 20 teams wouldn't want as their OC or DC
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My thing is we always have to rely on Orgeron making the right coordinator hires. It was the same thing with Les Miles.


And this is what I find problematic. I'd like to be comfortable in knowing our HEAD coach could be one or the other, if he had to. Our last two coaches have not given me such comfort.


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NFLU
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re: We shouldn't have a HC that most top 20 teams wouldn't want as their OC or DC
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Agree or disagree?


I agree that this topic is awful and has been discussed ad nauseam.


Y.A. Tittle
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re: We shouldn't have a HC that most top 20 teams wouldn't want as their OC or DC
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I agree that this topic is awful and has been discussed ad nauseam.


Well, thanks for the input, if nothing else.

At least it's a bit more constructive than downvotes.


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gemlsu
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re: We shouldn't have a HC that most top 20 teams wouldn't want as their OC or DC
We have to put up with more of this shite. This board is getting unreadable.


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terriblegreen
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re: We shouldn't have a HC that most top 20 teams wouldn't want as their OC or DC
Fresh topic. No one has ever brought this up a million times before.


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AnotherRound
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re: We shouldn't have a HC that most top 20 teams wouldn't want as their OC or DC
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Y.A. Tittle


Welcome to last year.


Y.A. Tittle
Winthrop Fan
Member since Sep 2003
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re: We shouldn't have a HC that most top 20 teams wouldn't want as their OC or DC
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Welcome to last year.


I understand. It's just sort of hammering home to me more by the day.

Carry on with more nuanced discussion. Sorry.


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Lebowski
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re: We shouldn't have a HC that most top 20 teams wouldn't want as their OC or DC
Ed O sucks as a HC. I think he knows it too.


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DamnStrong1860
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Member since Oct 2012
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re: We shouldn't have a HC that most top 20 teams wouldn't want as their OC or DC
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Agree or disagree? The choice is dependent upon his specialty, but he should clearly be accomplished enough that he would be generally desired as one or the other, if he wasn't a head coach. To me it seems like a pretty simple proposition to me.


I'm no O fan but I don't know if I agree completely. Not sure how many teams were trying to fire their coach to hire Saban or Miles instead and both of those guys turned out fine here. It's fine if an AD goes out on a limb and hires a guy because he sees something promising. I just can't for the life of me figure out what Alleva saw in O.


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re: We shouldn't have a HC that most top 20 teams wouldn't want as their OC or DC
Les miles..
This post was edited on 9/28 at 4:01 pm


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H-Town Tiger
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re: We shouldn't have a HC that most top 20 teams wouldn't want as their OC or DC
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For ex. Dabo, Fleck, Meyer.. to name a few. So it's not crazy that it happened here


Dabo was hired by Clemson, at the time they were closer to where LSU was when we hired Saban. Flack and Meyer got their first HC jobs at nonP5 schools and did exceptionally well.

It's not never having been a Coordinator BY ITSELF that makes O a bad hire. It's his miserable record in his 1 chance as a HC COMBINED with the fact that in 30+ years as a coach he's never been considered as a coordinator.


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Buryl
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Member since Sep 2016
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re: We shouldn't have a HC that most top 20 teams wouldn't want as their OC or DC
I'm hoping you have a time machine and plan on taking our findings back to Joe Alleva circa November 2016.

This is what I don't get about the O-haters - YOU CANT GO BACK IN TIME. The dude is our coach now, we have no choice but to give him a chance. Should he be there? Probably not, but he is. It's settled and done.


Mo Jeaux
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re: We shouldn't have a HC that most top 20 teams wouldn't want as their OC or DC
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This is what I don't get about the O-haters - YOU CANT GO BACK IN TIME. The dude is our coach now, we have no choice but to give him a chance. Should he be there? Probably not, but he is. It's settled and done.


I keep hearing this. How are we not giving him a chance? And what does that even mean? Obviously, we know he's here now.


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BilltheTiger
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Member since Jul 2013
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re: We shouldn't have a HC that most top 20 teams wouldn't want as their OC or DC
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My thing is we always have to rely on Orgeron making the right coordinator hires. It was the same thing with Les Miles. If we are ever in a position where Orgeron is the best coach for LSU football we are in trouble.

Not correct, Les Miles did not let his offensive coordinator coordinate anything. It remains to be seen how Orgeron handles this.


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UncleRuckus
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Member since Feb 2013
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re: We shouldn't have a HC that most top 20 teams wouldn't want as their OC or DC
Lsu didn't even want him as their D.C. the year before he was given the HC job. O shouldn't be the head coach at LSU and wouldn't be a head coach at any other Power 5 school


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cajunduby
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Member since Nov 2012
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re: We shouldn't have a HC that most top 20 teams wouldn't want as their OC or DC
Hot fricking take! Can't wait to read your next shite post!
This post was edited on 9/28 at 5:25 pm


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