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re: We have big physical specimen receivers. Why are we only playing a couple of midgets?Posted by tigerfootball10 on 9/20/17 at 10:12 am to Slippy
The real question is why are we back to throwing the ball 15+ yards on every throw? Why can't we throw easy possession routes? Outs, curls, hitches and digs. Easy throw and catch and you run the clock.
I don't think size should be the determining factor... not by a long shot.
Having said that, our WRs need to be looked at in detail, and challenged. Not just the starters either. Except for Chark (who needs his arse chewed about focus and leadership) we shouldn't have "starters".
We've all heard about RB by committee, QB by cmte, Y & Z need to be by cmte. This was actually my biggest worry coming in to this season.
Harp on Etling and Canada all you want, but if the WRs aren't doing ALL their job DE and Canada can't do theirs. At best they will struggle. At worst they look like chilled, mowed, stepped in, dogshit. By "all their job" I don't mean all of them, I mean do everything a WR has do well, every play. Want a play off? Put in Drake. Take a play off with you blocking, put in Stephens. That's the rationale for "by committee". That and no superstars. At least not yet.
You don't get to be a superstar WR unless the QB looks good (not great, but at least good). Except for Chark, I think he's earned it. But that superstar/draft status isn't bestowed for life. It can drift away just like the smell of shitty play can waft into the nostrils of fans, coaches, opponent D-coords, and scouts.
Having said that, our WRs need to be looked at in detail, and challenged. Not just the starters either. Except for Chark (who needs his arse chewed about focus and leadership) we shouldn't have "starters".
We've all heard about RB by committee, QB by cmte, Y & Z need to be by cmte. This was actually my biggest worry coming in to this season.
Harp on Etling and Canada all you want, but if the WRs aren't doing ALL their job DE and Canada can't do theirs. At best they will struggle. At worst they look like chilled, mowed, stepped in, dogshit. By "all their job" I don't mean all of them, I mean do everything a WR has do well, every play. Want a play off? Put in Drake. Take a play off with you blocking, put in Stephens. That's the rationale for "by committee". That and no superstars. At least not yet.
You don't get to be a superstar WR unless the QB looks good (not great, but at least good). Except for Chark, I think he's earned it. But that superstar/draft status isn't bestowed for life. It can drift away just like the smell of shitty play can waft into the nostrils of fans, coaches, opponent D-coords, and scouts.
quote:We started doing that against MSU. Hell, some of the 3rd and shorts were passes. Some of those were on target, and fricked up. I think Gage's face-mask-plant was a 3rd and two (have to look that one up). But yeah, it SEEMS (not enough data yet) we were planning and doing just that some.
The real question is why are we back to throwing the ball 15+ yards on every throw? Why can't we throw easy possession routes? Outs, curls, hitches and digs. Easy throw and catch and you run the clock.
This post was edited on 9/20 at 10:21 am
re: We have big physical specimen receivers. Why are we only playing a couple of midgets?Posted by BayouCowboy on 9/20/17 at 10:18 am to pellietigersaint
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well thats on the WR coach. end of fricking story one gets paid............the other doesn't. paid guy owns it
Yep. Mickey Joseph was probably the coordinator/position coach that I was least excited about. He was hired to recruit Nawlins. I'd rather get a great position coach because their ability to develop talent would help recruit, not the reverse.
re: We have big physical specimen receivers. Why are we only playing a couple of midgets?Posted by Stellytiger on 9/20/17 at 10:25 am to Slippy
I thought you knew. It's because Gage caught a touchdown last year.
re: We have big physical specimen receivers. Why are we only playing a couple of midgets?Posted by JBeam on 9/20/17 at 10:31 am to tigerfootball10
quote:Outside of DJ Chark. I think we have some average roleplayer Wide Receivers (Along with guys who are in the doghouse). LSU is missing the likes of Quinn,Johnson & Diarse right now.
The real question is why are we back to throwing the ball 15+ yards on every throw? Why can't we throw easy possession routes? Outs, curls, hitches and digs. Easy throw and catch and you run the clock.
re: We have big physical specimen receivers. Why are we only playing a couple of midgets?Posted by airfernando on 9/20/17 at 10:37 am to Slippy
quote:You underestimate the importance of intelligence or lack thereof, which is ironic. Also, keep in mind, if a player doesn't understand the play, he's not just going to be in the wrong place for himself, he's also going to mess up someone else's route or run.
If they don't know the plays, that's on the coaches. Teach them the fricking plays.
re: We have big physical specimen receivers. Why are we only playing a couple of midgets?Posted by Sterling Archer on 9/20/17 at 10:49 am to Slippy
Who are the top receivers in the league? If you did a top 5 or 10, how many are closer in size to Gage and Dillon than Sullivan and Anderson? Size is no guarantee of playing ability
re: We have big physical specimen receivers. Why are we only playing a couple of midgets?Posted by The Truth 34 on 9/20/17 at 10:50 am to LSUButt
Yea I remember that play. These guys need to study that playbook like their lives depend on it
re: We have big physical specimen receivers. Why are we only playing a couple of midgets?Posted by 12Pence on 9/20/17 at 10:54 am to The Truth 34
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According to people in the know, they don't know the plays.
They've got 5 to 6 inches over most cornerbacks. Run as fast as you can straight down the field. Etling throws bomb (something resembling that ), jump over the cornerback and make the catch. Make. The. Catch.
There. Now you know the play.
This post was edited on 9/20 at 10:56 am
re: We have big physical specimen receivers. Why are we only playing a couple of midgets?Posted by AnotherRound on 9/20/17 at 10:57 am to Slippy
After the first game, where I think you might have been working to make a statement to your program, I have no idea why those dudes are not starting/ playing more.
No idea.
Being a WR is one of easiest places to play early on offense. I could understand difficult as QB or OL because more stuff changes.
No idea.
Being a WR is one of easiest places to play early on offense. I could understand difficult as QB or OL because more stuff changes.
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re: We have big physical specimen receivers. Why are we only playing a couple of midgets?Posted by atltiger6487 on 9/20/17 at 10:59 am to Lester Earl
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Because it usually takes until that 3rd year for WR to emerge
good lord, please stop. Quality players can contribute immediately.
re: We have big physical specimen receivers. Why are we only playing a couple of midgets?Posted by Open Your Eyes on 9/20/17 at 11:02 am to The Pirate King
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Well Sullivan dropped a TD pass, so...probably a big reason right there.
Because drops are keeping Chark and gage off the field?
re: We have big physical specimen receivers. Why are we only playing a couple of midgets?Posted by ole man on 9/20/17 at 11:05 am to Open Your Eyes
Don't know the play book abviously
re: We have big physical specimen receivers. Why are we only playing a couple of midgets?Posted by pellietigersaint on 9/20/17 at 11:34 am to LSUButt
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You go over plays, everyone has playbooks. As a coach, learning the plays is easy for the players..the ones who do it care more, and have earned the right for their playing time
when it equates to your livelihood and employment, the success of the program, then you take the onus.
I dont get to tell my physician owners that staff didnt know what to do, that I taught them, but they didnt do their part. while that may be true, I'm resposible because I'm in charge. thats how it works.
re: We have big physical specimen receivers. Why are we only playing a couple of midgets?Posted by Fuzzybunz on 9/20/17 at 12:17 pm to BayouCowboy
It doesn't help they are on their third WR coach in as many years. Hard to have consistent developement with that kind of coaching turnover.
re: We have big physical specimen receivers. Why are we only playing a couple of midgets?Posted by CP3forMVP on 9/20/17 at 12:26 pm to jaguar fan
The receivers behind Gage are to talented to see major time on the sidelines. If they don't know the playbook, then teach them one plays or two plays and run that. I'm sure they know the routes. After that team them another, and so on.
re: We have big physical specimen receivers. Why are we only playing a couple of midgets?Posted by saintsfan22 on 9/20/17 at 12:54 pm to The Pirate King
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Well Sullivan dropped a TD pass, so...probably a big reason right there.
So Drake has to sit too?
re: We have big physical specimen receivers. Why are we only playing a couple of midgets?Posted by tigerfan88 on 9/20/17 at 12:59 pm to saintsfan22
Gage/Dillon over Davis/Sullivan will end being the Welter over beckwith of this year
re: We have big physical specimen receivers. Why are we only playing a couple of midgets?Posted by Nissanmaxima on 9/20/17 at 1:50 pm to Slippy
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Why are we only playing a couple of midgets?
Come on bro, little people, little people
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