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Video of Mainieri responding to your criticisms of 3rd base coaching
Posted on 3/21/18 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 3/21/18 at 4:46 pm
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 4:53 pm to tigerskin
You’re an idiot if you believe him about it being as simple as 2 outs = send him home.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 4:53 pm to tigerskin
FWIW, Cain stole us a run Sunday when he waived a runner home on an infield error.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 4:55 pm to ell_13
Might not be as simple but if it’s a borderline call you send him where as less than 2 outs you hold him. With 2 outs you make hem make a play. If Cain sends the runner and he is thrown out on a bang bang play with 2 outs I can live with that.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 4:57 pm to geauxtigers33
The problem is when the guy has been thrown out by 4 steps. PM has even yelled at Cain about it early this year.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 5:00 pm to tigerskin
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Says he used to do it himself
Were you not following the team in Paul's first year here?
He waved in the winning run in the bottom of the 9th in his first ever game at LSU.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 5:00 pm to ell_13
It sure better be more complicated then “2outs”. How hard is it hit, is it right at a shallow playing outfielder, runner slow as molasses, etc.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 5:02 pm to Broski
Ok. Was just a filler statement to post the video
Posted on 3/21/18 at 5:03 pm to tigerskin
You guys are taking a generalized example Spaghetti Sauce used as a reference and are acting like it’s a written in stone rule.
All he was saying is that they are more aggressive with 2 outs. That’s it.
All he was saying is that they are more aggressive with 2 outs. That’s it.
This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 3/21/18 at 6:10 pm to tigerskin
It's honestly not any more difficult than that 98% of the time. As your law of averages tells you in this wonderful game, the chances of stringing together 2-3 hits in a row, are very very low. So 2 out sends happen in EVERY single level of this game. You win some, you lose some. Pretty simple philosophy, but hey, what do I know..
Posted on 3/21/18 at 6:12 pm to geauxtigers33
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If Cain sends the runner and he is thrown out on a bang bang play with 2 outs I can live with that.
Depends on who is at third. Who is up to bat next. How we're hitting. What the score is and what inning we're in.
Its never as simple as "two outs send him"
Posted on 3/21/18 at 7:00 pm to CottonWasKing
I don’t think that’s what Paul was saying my dude.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 9:57 pm to ell_13
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You’re an idiot if you believe him about it being as simple as 2 outs = send him home.
You're an idiot if that's what you heard.....
Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:12 pm to KC Tiger
He said it twice. “When there’s two outs, you gamble and send him.” No other stipulations. And he goes on to say that it’s more complicated with one out. I don’t think PM believes it’s that simple, fwiw. But it’s how he tried to make it seem in order to protect his guy.
And this isn’t the first time we’ve had this discussion and PM has tried to say “with 2 outs, you have to send him.” It was discussed at length when Will was at 3B. I distinctly remember Mascona going to the defense of ALWAYS sending the runner with two outs because he’s too ignorant to understand that’s not what PM was trying to say.
Yes, with 2 outs you force the throw because the odds of another hit (around 30%) are less than the odds of scoring on a play at the plate in general. The “general” part being dependent on a good enough throw. The rule is “when the throw has to be almost perfect” or “close to bang bang”. That’s certainly not always the case. We’ve seen Paul himself be upset when a runner was sent and the cutoff guy had the ball before the runner even touched 3B. I know because I posted a screenshot from the replay. I forget who was thrown out but it was one of our faster guys. He was still out by 3 steps.
And this isn’t the first time we’ve had this discussion and PM has tried to say “with 2 outs, you have to send him.” It was discussed at length when Will was at 3B. I distinctly remember Mascona going to the defense of ALWAYS sending the runner with two outs because he’s too ignorant to understand that’s not what PM was trying to say.
Yes, with 2 outs you force the throw because the odds of another hit (around 30%) are less than the odds of scoring on a play at the plate in general. The “general” part being dependent on a good enough throw. The rule is “when the throw has to be almost perfect” or “close to bang bang”. That’s certainly not always the case. We’ve seen Paul himself be upset when a runner was sent and the cutoff guy had the ball before the runner even touched 3B. I know because I posted a screenshot from the replay. I forget who was thrown out but it was one of our faster guys. He was still out by 3 steps.
This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:22 pm to Broski
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He waved in the winning run in the bottom of the 9th in his first ever game at LSU.
No he didn’t.
He did coach 3rd tho. A lot of people don’t remember that because most of the best fans in college baseball didn’t follow the team that season.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:32 pm to doubleb
He had at least 15 runners thrown out at home last year
Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:53 pm to doubleb
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FWIW, Cain stole us a run Sunday when he waived a runner home on an infield error.
A broken clock is right twice a day. Cain has misjudged the arms of college athletes more often than not.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 6:54 am to CottonWasKing
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Depends on who is at third. Who is up to bat next. How we're hitting
No it doesn’t. The post you were responding to was correct. If there are two outs, and a send results in bang-bang, then it was the right call. The only thing you listed that was a legitimate reason to not send him was the score/inning. Obviously if we’re down two in the bottom of the ninth you would not send him.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 7:56 am to tigerskin
Cain is terrible at 3rd base.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 8:27 am to ell_13
From your first post:
From your second post:
These are completely different representations of what Mainieri said. One is accurate; one is not.
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You’re an idiot if you believe him about it being as simple as 2 outs = send him home.
From your second post:
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He said it twice. “When there’s two outs, you gamble and send him.” No other stipulations. And he goes on to say that it’s more complicated with one out.
These are completely different representations of what Mainieri said. One is accurate; one is not.
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