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re: Video Inside Shady's Before Fight on Ch. 8 (w/Links)UPDATED
Posted on 8/30/11 at 11:40 pm to JJ27
Posted on 8/30/11 at 11:40 pm to JJ27
Can you imagine what would be going through the Oregon coaches heads if they got a call Friday night that JJ was being reinstated?
Maybe this is Les's first trick play of the year
Maybe this is Les's first trick play of the year
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 11:42 pm to NC_Tigah
Right leg is drawn up, and on the video he follows through in a stomp, and then repeats the motion as the camera moves to the right
Posted on 8/30/11 at 11:47 pm to John McClane
I read through some of these pages and there is quite a bit of agenda from pro-JJ guys and anti-JJ guys. There also seems to be a bit of unbiased conversation taking place, and I hope this contributes to that middle ground.
Pause at the :05 mark
In that video, there is a guy who appears to be in jeans and a white shirt. After the video jumps to the :10 mark, you can see the subject in the white shirt move/run towards the head/upper body of the guy on the ground. I think it is irresponsible to say that the subject does or does not kick/stomp the guy on the ground at this point.
IMO, the videos in the OP prove a few things.
1) JJ is not the "kicker" in all black in the original video
2) If JJ kicked the guy on the ground, then there is at least 1 other kicker out there.
3) All of the videos, taken together, do not prove that JJ is innocent or guilty. Obviously he is not the kicker in all black, but if the guy in the jeans and the light colored shirt does stomp the guy on the ground, then that could or could not be JJ.
4) For this to go to trial, there HAS to be some other evidence. BRPD could and did arrest JJ/Johns based on Lowery's statements, but to convict anyone would be impossible based on the current video evidence we have seen.
Pause at the :05 mark
In that video, there is a guy who appears to be in jeans and a white shirt. After the video jumps to the :10 mark, you can see the subject in the white shirt move/run towards the head/upper body of the guy on the ground. I think it is irresponsible to say that the subject does or does not kick/stomp the guy on the ground at this point.
IMO, the videos in the OP prove a few things.
1) JJ is not the "kicker" in all black in the original video
2) If JJ kicked the guy on the ground, then there is at least 1 other kicker out there.
3) All of the videos, taken together, do not prove that JJ is innocent or guilty. Obviously he is not the kicker in all black, but if the guy in the jeans and the light colored shirt does stomp the guy on the ground, then that could or could not be JJ.
4) For this to go to trial, there HAS to be some other evidence. BRPD could and did arrest JJ/Johns based on Lowery's statements, but to convict anyone would be impossible based on the current video evidence we have seen.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 11:47 pm to RobbBobb
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Right leg is drawn up, and on the video he follows through in a stomp, and then repeats the motion as the camera moves to the right
I honestly cant see shite.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 11:49 pm to slackster
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2) If JJ kicked the guy on the ground, then there is at least 1 other kicker out there
And it was you the butler! Ah ha! The last person anyone would expect!
Posted on 8/30/11 at 11:53 pm to slackster
quote:
but if the guy in the jeans and the light colored shirt does stomp the guy on the ground, then that could or could not be JJ.
from the video inside the bar it doesnt appear jj had on jeans, unless they are black jeans. looks more like black shorts to me.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 11:54 pm to Adam Banks
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Adam Banks
I hope JJ is innocent and I hope no LSU football players were involved, but if JJ was there, why wouldn't he tell the BRPD who actually did the kicking/fighting to clear his name. The "snitch" shite is retarded. This is the most baffling part of the entire situation IMO, unless he was truly no where near the fight.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 11:55 pm to RobbBobb
quote:You mean that white guy in the pic you keep posting??
Right leg is drawn up, and on the video he follows through in a stomp, and then repeats the motion as the camera moves to the right
Posted on 8/30/11 at 11:57 pm to lctiger
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unless they are black jeans
at an African-American 21 year old football player wearing any other color of jeans to a club. Combined with the sunglasses, it is a safe bet that he is wearing black jeans, but I guess it could be shorts as well. This post was edited on 8/30/11 at 11:58 pm
Posted on 8/30/11 at 11:58 pm to slackster
guy you are talking about kinda fits the description of JL
Posted on 8/30/11 at 11:58 pm to EricB
quote:I hope someone kicks you
EricB
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:00 am to Fishhead
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You mean that white guy in the pic you keep posting??
Off all the interesting things people have seen in the video, stating that guy is white for sure is the wildest of them all. I do not think you can tell what race the subject is.
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:01 am to John McClane
It is still a mystery to me what some of these "Alleged" LSU fans have to gain by running JJ through the mud. 
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:02 am to im4LSU
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guy you are talking about kinda fits the description of JL
Really?
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:03 am to Cadello
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It is still a mystery to me what some of these "Alleged" LSU fans have to gain by running JJ through the mud.
+1000
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:03 am to RobbBobb
quote:That's Captain Morgan you idiot.
Right leg is drawn up,
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:06 am to slackster
quote:
I hope JJ is innocent and I hope no LSU football players were involved, but if JJ was there, why wouldn't he tell the BRPD who actually did the kicking/fighting to clear his name.
A brawl is usually chaotic and it appears the video reinforces that. He may not have seen who kicked who, if he saw anyone being kicked at all.
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:06 am to slackster
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Off all the interesting things people have seen in the video, stating that guy is white for sure is the wildest of them all. I do not think you can tell what race the subject is.
Honestly when you see the video in motion it looks like a white dude with a white shirt and blue shorts with a hat/visor on.
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:08 am to Cadello
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That's Captain Morgan you idiot.
You would think he would have been easily identified by the crowd. JJ should not be protecting him. Time to cut the capt. loose
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:11 am to lsu6294
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Honestly when you see the video in motion it looks like a white dude with a white shirt and blue shorts with a hat/visor on.
I am not saying it is JJ, but I do not see this either. Meh, there has to be quite a bit we have not yet seen or else the BRPD is as bad as people have made them out to be.
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