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UNPOPULAR OPINION: alleva made the right call

Posted on 11/26/16 at 10:15 am
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
A man more eviler than Skeletor.
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 11/26/16 at 10:15 am
the job of the AD is to run the athletic department with regards to football operations, the state of louisiana and the rest of the sports at LSU.

Firstly, Miles did not get fired for his record. He got fired for his obstinance and unwillingness to embrace change and a new coordinator. He got fired for underachieving. If one was to think that Miles could've succeeded had he been willing to embrace new OC and offensive philosophies.

The finances: the state is perpetually in a budget crunch. Miles has a buyout and might not get hired elsewhere.

if one believes that Miles' tenure was successful but could've been more so, hiring someone who takes the best qualities of miles (recruiting, state ambassador) but with a more open-minded approach at 75% of the cost is a win.

we will retain aranda. if aranda bolts we will open the checkbook for the best DC on the market. we will poach from other power 5 schools because we have the money talent and facilities to do so.

we will get a top flight OC. if he bolts we will open the checkbook for the best OC on the market.

lastly, jimbo and herman didn't want to be here. if they did, they would've been.

all of this will cost less than what we would've paid to gamble just for the annual salary on the flavor of the month Herman or the resume' resting Fisher.

this was the right call for the program at this point. joe refused to gamble with LSU funds and got the man who wanted the job more than anyone else.
This post was edited on 11/26/16 at 10:17 am
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/26/16 at 10:16 am to
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94236 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 10:17 am to
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lastly, jimbo and herman didn't want to be here. if they did, they would've been


Yeah. Other than the reports that LSU balked at 6 million for Herman and wouldn't wait around on him.
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
A man more eviler than Skeletor.
Member since Feb 2005
50655 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 10:18 am to
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Yeah. Other than the reports that LSU balked at 6 million for Herman and wouldn't wait around on him.



we'll see if tom herman is worth 6 million dollars a year. he hasn't done a damn thing yet.
Posted by ddbnsb
Raised in New Orleans
Member since Dec 2005
3310 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 10:19 am to
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The finances: the state is perpetually in a budget crunch. Miles has a buyout and might not get hired elsewhere.


true, BUT, the State does not pay the majority of the coaches salary. That come from TAF (Tiger Athletic Foundation)
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 10:21 am to
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WRONG OPINION:


Fify
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
18797 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 10:22 am to
Herman wants Texas job, let him have it. We want someone who will work tirelessly for LSU. Coach O will do that and the players love him. Somehow, I think we may have gotten this one right.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94236 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 10:22 am to
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he hasn't done a damn thing yet


Sounds like the Swamp Creature we just hired.
Posted by teeMike
In my mind, I'm already there.
Member since Feb 2007
7574 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 10:23 am to
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we'll see if tom herman is worth 6 million dollars a year. he hasn't done a damn thing yet.


And, he was playing LSU to get more money because he wanted to be at Texas all along. How people don't see this is beyond me.
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 10:23 am to
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Yeah. Other than the reports that LSU balked at 6 million for Herman and wouldn't wait around on him.

Herman might be UM, NS and the bear all rolled into one. He surely hasn't proved it. 6 million a year for 5 years is a huge gamble.
Posted by Watchmaker
Member since Aug 2016
768 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 10:25 am to
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we will open the checkbook for the best DC on the market. we will poach from other power 5 schools because we have the money talent and facilities to do so. we will get a top flight OC. if he bolts we will open the checkbook for the best OC on the market.


Really! Evidence for this?
Posted by BraveTiger225
Atlanta, GA
Member since May 2008
17662 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 10:26 am to
Stowing away money to hire Avery Johnson.
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 10:26 am to
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true, BUT, the State does not pay the majority of the coaches salary. That come from TAF (Tiger Athletic Foundation)


6 million for 5 years is a huge gamble for any Athletic program. That's NS type money for a guy that coached two years at Houston.
Posted by lacajun069
franklinton
Member since Sep 2008
2082 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 10:27 am to
Dinar do wanted the LSU job and worked tirelessly also. How many times did he beat Alabama in his tenure as LSU coach. How many of those victories were at home in Tiger Stadium.

ALABAMA hired Mike Sula because he really wanted the job and was a tireless worker. Where did that get them?
Posted by sigsauer
LA
Member since Jan 2009
479 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 10:27 am to
So you're saying with our hiring prowess and track record when Aranda bolts we'll probably throw the checkbook at Chavis and for OC I'm sure Crowton will do great
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10165 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 10:30 am to
The problem with this is Alleva had 2 months to get a coach locked down and we settled for O. Alleva is a terrible AD.
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
22422 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 10:31 am to
Dear sweet baby Jesus
This post was edited on 11/26/16 at 10:32 am
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29013 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 10:33 am to
Yeah...we'll poach a DC...just like we poached a top....oh wait, nevermind
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79078 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 10:33 am to
LSU will open its checkbook for every position except head coach
This post was edited on 11/26/16 at 10:34 am
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10427 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 10:34 am to
You spend more money when you have to pay assistants head coach money to cover for O's massive inadequacies.

This is a horrible hire no matter how you put it, especially if O is getting $3.5 million per year as it is despite his horrible past.

If this was about money, LSU could've hired a guy like Fleck for that much.
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