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Under BCS formula LSU not #1

Posted on 12/4/19 at 3:03 pm
Posted by beauxroux
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/4/19 at 3:03 pm
Under the BCS formula LSU still at #2-- this is surprising.
BCS Formula after Week 14
Posted by 225Tyga
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Posted on 12/4/19 at 3:03 pm to
Nope, we would be #1
Posted by beauxroux
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/4/19 at 3:04 pm to
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Nope, we would be #1

Perhaps you failed to look at the results in the link?
Posted by ApexTiger
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Posted on 12/4/19 at 3:07 pm to
.09 points, once LSU beats UGA, they would be #1
Posted by CatsGoneWild
Pigeon forge, Tennessee
Member since Jan 2008
13295 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 3:07 pm to
It is a BCS era, we would play Ohio State for the title game and not have to go through Clemson just to make it
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 12/4/19 at 3:07 pm to
We fell this week likely due to the Michigan loss.

I expect we’ll swap places again with a win against UGA.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
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Posted on 12/4/19 at 3:11 pm to
You do realize if it was back in that era, ohio st and clemson would get in over lsu, right?
Posted by Jrv2damac
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Posted on 12/4/19 at 3:14 pm to
Fresh
Posted by Jrv2damac
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Posted on 12/4/19 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

You do realize if it was back in that era, ohio st and clemson would get in over lsu, right?


Ohio St would be #1 by a hanging chad right now

Clemson #2? Eh, that’s a baseless thought.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/4/19 at 3:15 pm to
Under BCS formula, number 1 and number 2 wouldn’t matter
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

Under BCS formula LSU not #1
Under the BCS formula LSU still at #2-- this is surprising.
BCS Formula after Week 14



quote:

Human Element

The BCS consists of two human elements, or polls, from which two-thirds of the BCS formula is taken.


When people talk about the "BCS" or "computers" they are referring to the early version that didnt use the same 'humans' that rely on the same 'eye test' that the CFP Committee does.

The whole point is to remove the human element and use a sound and proven algorithm computed by microchips to determine the best teams using FACTS and NUMBERS.

I direct you to -

The Great CFP Bait & Switch - A Treatise in Power - By Lord Acton

Sorry. I have a flair for the dramatic.
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 3:39 pm
Posted by kylesch87
Member since Dec 2015
280 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

When people talk about the "BCS" or "computers" they are referring to the early version that didnt use the same 'humans' that rely on the same 'eye test' that the CFP Committee does.


The early version of the BCS still used human polls. See this link: LINK
The original BCS formula included the AP Poll, the Coach's Poll, three computer polls, strength of schedule, and losses.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/4/19 at 3:50 pm to
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You do realize if it was back in that era, ohio st and clemson would get in over lsu, right?


I'd love for you to show your math on this one. I'm aware 2004 happened, but not sure how you think that applies this year.
Posted by HueyP
Lubbock
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 12/4/19 at 3:52 pm to
Even more interesting how far back Utah is from OU.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110631 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

I'd love for you to show your math on this one. I'm aware 2004 happened, but not sure how you think that applies this year.

I think his assertion is more than fair. Maybe not as factual as he presented it, but i'm 100% on board with his take.

Clemson went undefeated last season. Clemson is undefeated this season. I fully understand last season should have no bearing on this season but that does not mean it does not have any bearing for voters.

The premise is that there is no way Clemson who went undefeated as champs last season and is undefeated this season would be left out of the title game. If the playoffs were only 2, and the pollsters rankings actually factored into it, they would probably vote differently and ensure Clemson was in.

And I agree with that take, 100%
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
20962 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 4:01 pm to
Do not look at the top spots, go check out where the committee put OSU's "big" wins versus LSU's "big" wins. The screw job is already put into place. If we win, LSU will be #2. If we lose to UGA we are out.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/4/19 at 4:03 pm to
quote:

The premise is that there is no way Clemson who went undefeated as champs last season and is undefeated this season would be left out of the title game. If the playoffs were only 2, and the pollsters rankings actually factored into it, they would probably vote differently and ensure Clemson was in.

And I agree with that take, 100%

I can't say I agree with that. Th BCS loved SOS and Clemson's is absolute poo.

LSU didn't start out ranked No. 1 in 2008. I'm sure there's plenty more examples of defending champs not starting out at 1.
Posted by bayou prince
NC
Member since Oct 2019
1436 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

Do not look at the top spots, go check out where the committee put OSU's "big" wins versus LSU's "big" wins. The screw job is already put into place. If we win, LSU will be #2. If we lose to UGA we are out.


No, LSU is in, period.
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
9463 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 4:26 pm to
LSU has been #1 in BCS simulation until this week.

I agree a victory over Georgia will put them at #1 again.

For what that is worth.
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22495 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 4:40 pm to
What the h#ll difference does it make? If LSU is a playoff team, then 1-2-3-4 matters little. If LSU is the hot knife and the rest are butter...
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