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UGA basketball preview for Wednesday 6 CST, SECN
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:44 am
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:44 am
LSU picked up 2 big wins last week @ Ole Miss and vs. what was a 4-0 SEC USC team at home in 2 games that just werent all that close, especially the USC game.
UGA limps into the PMAC this week 9-8 overall and 1-4 in SEC play. They got pummeled by Tennessee, Auburn and Kentucky and lost by 10 in a low scoring affair with Florida at home this past weekend. UGA had 1 terrible OOC loss to Georgia State at a neutral court by a score of 91-67.
UGA Starters
C (6'9, 250) SR. Derek Ogbeide - 9.4 pts, 6.1 reb, 16.4 PER
F (6'11, 220) SO. Nick Claxton - 12.4 pts, 9.6 reb, 22.8 PER
F (6'8, 235) SO. Rayshaun Hammonds - 12.9 pts, 6.5 reb, 20.9 PER
G (6'5, 190) SO. TeShaun Hightower - 8.0 pts, 1.8 ast, 12.5 PER
G (6'4, 190) JR. Jordan Harris - 4.5 pts, 1.1 ast, 13.8 PER
Main Bench
G (6'1, 185) JR. Tyree Crump - 10.1 pts, 1.8 ast, 19.4 PER
G (6'4, 185) SR. William Jackson II - 4.8 pts, 1.8 ast, 9.3 PER
F (6'6, 220) SR. E'Torrion Wilridge - 3.6 pts, 2.4 reb, 11.0 PER
G (6'3, 185) FR. Tye Fagan - 3.5 pts, 1.0 ast, 10.5 PER
UGA also plays 3 freshmen spot minutes each game in Ignas Sargiunas, Amanze Ngumezi and JoJo Toppin but pretty much do nothing.
UGA doesnt have a depth problem, what they have is a quality depth problem. Just lot of bodies who aren't very effective off the bench outside of Tyree Crump among what's one of the better forward starting groups in the SEC. Yes they play a ton of height overall, but it hasnt translated into a domination of the boards as you would expect with a true big center and a pair of 6'11/6'8 forwards to go along with him.
UGA's offense is plain, well, awful. They are averaging 62 pts a game in league play so far (13th in the conference). They have no PG and thus their offense suffers a lot, despite outsizing basically every team they play. Nick Claxton is their best player and he's not only a great rim protector but a beast rebounder. His most disappointing aspect is he thinks he's a shooter but only shoots 23% from 3 point range. As a team UGA is 26% from 3 in league play, among the worst.
This will be a true test for our bigs, and they need to stay out of foul trouble best they can because Williams and Days will not be able to guard Claxton very effectively. UGA's guard group however expect to get dominated by ours. They have no one to guard Waters (Crump is the only one size wise close to him, and he's a bad defender which is part of the reason he doesnt start). William Jackson II has been their PG in the past, but he's been so bad this year they just benched him last game.
All in all, so long as we simply show up, we could beat UGA sleep walking pretty much. We want to speed the game up and score because UGA simply wont be able to keep up with us if we can push it and score on them. They dont have anyone to run their show offensively, and have struggled from 3 and the line in league play. They are 1st in the SEC in blocks, not unexpected with the height they play, so it may be more difficult for us to get to the rim than normal, but again, we simply find ways to score and they dont. I expect a 15-25 point win.
UGA limps into the PMAC this week 9-8 overall and 1-4 in SEC play. They got pummeled by Tennessee, Auburn and Kentucky and lost by 10 in a low scoring affair with Florida at home this past weekend. UGA had 1 terrible OOC loss to Georgia State at a neutral court by a score of 91-67.
UGA Starters
C (6'9, 250) SR. Derek Ogbeide - 9.4 pts, 6.1 reb, 16.4 PER
F (6'11, 220) SO. Nick Claxton - 12.4 pts, 9.6 reb, 22.8 PER
F (6'8, 235) SO. Rayshaun Hammonds - 12.9 pts, 6.5 reb, 20.9 PER
G (6'5, 190) SO. TeShaun Hightower - 8.0 pts, 1.8 ast, 12.5 PER
G (6'4, 190) JR. Jordan Harris - 4.5 pts, 1.1 ast, 13.8 PER
Main Bench
G (6'1, 185) JR. Tyree Crump - 10.1 pts, 1.8 ast, 19.4 PER
G (6'4, 185) SR. William Jackson II - 4.8 pts, 1.8 ast, 9.3 PER
F (6'6, 220) SR. E'Torrion Wilridge - 3.6 pts, 2.4 reb, 11.0 PER
G (6'3, 185) FR. Tye Fagan - 3.5 pts, 1.0 ast, 10.5 PER
UGA also plays 3 freshmen spot minutes each game in Ignas Sargiunas, Amanze Ngumezi and JoJo Toppin but pretty much do nothing.
UGA doesnt have a depth problem, what they have is a quality depth problem. Just lot of bodies who aren't very effective off the bench outside of Tyree Crump among what's one of the better forward starting groups in the SEC. Yes they play a ton of height overall, but it hasnt translated into a domination of the boards as you would expect with a true big center and a pair of 6'11/6'8 forwards to go along with him.
UGA's offense is plain, well, awful. They are averaging 62 pts a game in league play so far (13th in the conference). They have no PG and thus their offense suffers a lot, despite outsizing basically every team they play. Nick Claxton is their best player and he's not only a great rim protector but a beast rebounder. His most disappointing aspect is he thinks he's a shooter but only shoots 23% from 3 point range. As a team UGA is 26% from 3 in league play, among the worst.
This will be a true test for our bigs, and they need to stay out of foul trouble best they can because Williams and Days will not be able to guard Claxton very effectively. UGA's guard group however expect to get dominated by ours. They have no one to guard Waters (Crump is the only one size wise close to him, and he's a bad defender which is part of the reason he doesnt start). William Jackson II has been their PG in the past, but he's been so bad this year they just benched him last game.
All in all, so long as we simply show up, we could beat UGA sleep walking pretty much. We want to speed the game up and score because UGA simply wont be able to keep up with us if we can push it and score on them. They dont have anyone to run their show offensively, and have struggled from 3 and the line in league play. They are 1st in the SEC in blocks, not unexpected with the height they play, so it may be more difficult for us to get to the rim than normal, but again, we simply find ways to score and they dont. I expect a 15-25 point win.
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 12:22 pm
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:48 am to thunderbird1100
Man I’ve really started to look forward to these. You do a great job breaking it down. Here’s to 5-0 
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:55 am to thunderbird1100
Claxton is a pretty good player and ogbeide is decent. Other than that it's alot of meh.
This a weird mathup for us but I assume we may get days at the 3 a decent bit this game.
This a weird mathup for us but I assume we may get days at the 3 a decent bit this game.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:07 am to Pnels08
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This a weird mathup for us but I assume we may get days at the 3 a decent bit this game.
I think it'll still be a ton of Marlon Taylor there. Williams and Days at the 4/5 spots primarily because there's a good chance of Reid/KBW getting into some foul trouble guarding all those bigs who are pretty legit. This will be a game Reid needs to play much smarter from a foul standpoint.
Taylor can really guard guys a few inches taller than him no problem (so long as they are not low block guys). Taylor is a high energy athletic specimen.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:12 am to thunderbird1100
Great job.
This is one of those games where a loss would hurt a LOT more than a win would help.
I'm interested to see if Wade can motivate the team in a game that LSU could easily overlook. It was easy for Wade to motivate LSU to play Bama because it was the start of SEC play. It was easy to motivate the team vs. Ark because it was the first road game in SEC. It was really easy to motivate LSU to take on OM and USC's 4-0 start, coupled with a good crowd helped give LSU some juice for that game.
Now, an avg to bad UGA team comes in to what will likely be a half full PMAC (6:00 pm start on a weekday). Human nature says LSU won't be as "up" for this game as they were for the first 4. Wade and the team leaders have to fight against that.
Unfortunately, this is a game that LSU could win and still DROP in the rankings. Really, the only way to avoid that is to dominate UGA like they did vs. USC. Last week LSU played the best defense they've played all season. That not only corresponded with two double digit wins, but BIG jumps in some of the rankings that matter (both NET and KenPom).
I think most fans felt a 6-2 start to conference play was a reasonable goal. However, as it stands now, an 8-0 start is in no way out of the question. I think that happens if this team continues to lock down defensively. And if LSU could get to 8-0 before traveling to MSU, they will have given themselves a lot of margin for error over the last 10 games. At that point, LSU would probably only need 3 more SEC wins to make the NCAAT. Get more wins than than and you're starting to talk conf. championships and high seeding in the NCAAT.
This is one of those games where a loss would hurt a LOT more than a win would help.
I'm interested to see if Wade can motivate the team in a game that LSU could easily overlook. It was easy for Wade to motivate LSU to play Bama because it was the start of SEC play. It was easy to motivate the team vs. Ark because it was the first road game in SEC. It was really easy to motivate LSU to take on OM and USC's 4-0 start, coupled with a good crowd helped give LSU some juice for that game.
Now, an avg to bad UGA team comes in to what will likely be a half full PMAC (6:00 pm start on a weekday). Human nature says LSU won't be as "up" for this game as they were for the first 4. Wade and the team leaders have to fight against that.
Unfortunately, this is a game that LSU could win and still DROP in the rankings. Really, the only way to avoid that is to dominate UGA like they did vs. USC. Last week LSU played the best defense they've played all season. That not only corresponded with two double digit wins, but BIG jumps in some of the rankings that matter (both NET and KenPom).
I think most fans felt a 6-2 start to conference play was a reasonable goal. However, as it stands now, an 8-0 start is in no way out of the question. I think that happens if this team continues to lock down defensively. And if LSU could get to 8-0 before traveling to MSU, they will have given themselves a lot of margin for error over the last 10 games. At that point, LSU would probably only need 3 more SEC wins to make the NCAAT. Get more wins than than and you're starting to talk conf. championships and high seeding in the NCAAT.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:21 am to Alt26
8-0 was definitely a pipe dream coming into conference play, and we're still 4 games away, but it's becoming more and more realistic for sure. Beat down UGA on Wednesday night and we'll have a lot of believers.
Nobody thought Ole Miss would be nearly as good as they have been and that was such a big early road win in conference play. The back 10 games or so of our schedule will really show how good we are.
Nobody thought Ole Miss would be nearly as good as they have been and that was such a big early road win in conference play. The back 10 games or so of our schedule will really show how good we are.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:23 am to thunderbird1100
Constructive criticism for ya; you a lil rusty since you haven't done one of these in a while.
Claxton is all they have and Wade will make sure he's double teamed.
Their guard play is absolutely horrendous.
LSU 80 Dawgs 64.
Claxton is all they have and Wade will make sure he's double teamed.
Their guard play is absolutely horrendous.
LSU 80 Dawgs 64.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:24 am to Alt26
It's SEC play and the game is at home.
This team will absolutely be motived to play Wednesday night.
This team will absolutely be motived to play Wednesday night.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:44 am to Alt26
you are reading my mind. i find this game interesting for this program - being one of the best teams in the conference and having an underwhelming opponent who has competent bigs. it's a weird matchup because lsu in one way or another has built their identity in the paint but this game dictates outside play.
let's be honest, this should be a comfortable win. it's possible lsu loses a game like this but wins a game they should lose but, beating this kind of team needs to be routine. i'm curious to see where wade has this team mentally. if they're focused and win easily, i think that says alot about his ability to get them to buy into the biggest aspirations.
love this bball talk.
let's be honest, this should be a comfortable win. it's possible lsu loses a game like this but wins a game they should lose but, beating this kind of team needs to be routine. i'm curious to see where wade has this team mentally. if they're focused and win easily, i think that says alot about his ability to get them to buy into the biggest aspirations.
quote:i absolutely expect this to happen. however, lsu has auburn, msu, fla, tenn, ky all coming up. the numbers will take care of themselves.
this is a game that LSU could win and still DROP in the rankings
quote:andy kennedy on secnow yesterday was saying the exact same thing. lsu should be favored in the remaining contests prior to state. and state hasn't been quite as good as i thought they would be. there's no reason think, at this point, that lsu can go there and win.
as it stands now, an 8-0 start is in no way out of the question
quote:when i looked at the schedule right before the bama game, this is exactly what i was thinking. the tigers need to bank as many wins as possible before that middle stretch of state, auburn, ky. that's rough right there.
if LSU could get to 8-0 before traveling to MSU, they will have given themselves a lot of margin for error over the last 10 games
quote:i'm watching the disparity between lsu's rankings and the projected seedings. there's a difference right now and i'm wondering if that gap starts to close after that 3 game stretch.
high seeding
love this bball talk.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 10:00 am to thunderbird1100
This is gonna be a repeat of 2006:
Georgia W 81-52 13-5 (5-0)
Maravich Center (13,468)
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Georgia W 81-52 13-5 (5-0)
Maravich Center (13,468)
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Posted on 1/21/19 at 10:05 am to bfniii
on the subject of the state game, i watched lsu and the sec closely last year. i was amazed at how good the teams were and how many great players there were.
this year, lsu has met some of those teams and players and has prevailed. it's so crazy to watch these teams from a distance and admire them and then see my tigers make them look inferior. teams that beat lsu last year. what a ride. the talent is there. lsu has leapfrogged quite a few solid programs.
this year, lsu has met some of those teams and players and has prevailed. it's so crazy to watch these teams from a distance and admire them and then see my tigers make them look inferior. teams that beat lsu last year. what a ride. the talent is there. lsu has leapfrogged quite a few solid programs.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 10:05 am to bfniii
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let's be honest, this should be a comfortable win. it's possible lsu loses a game like this but wins a game they should lose but, beating this kind of team needs to be routine. i'm curious to see where wade has this team mentally. if they're focused and win easily, i think that says alot about his ability to get them to buy into the biggest aspirations.
Tennessee is #1 because they have annihilated avg/bad teams like UGA (in fact, they beat the UGA team by 46!). LSU has to get that same mentality. No question they have shown up for the "big" games (it's not like FSU or Houston ran LSU out of the gym), but great teams, as a matter of routine, dominate bad teams. I'm concerned that LSU's inexperience will lead to a lapse of focus. Going anything less than 3-1 in the next four games would be a huge disappointment.
We've seen Wade's teams lock in defensively for one game, then completely check out in the next (see Michigan last year followed by terrible defense vs. ND and Marquette; or FSU this year, followed by horrible defense vs. OSU). My hope is that this group doesn't let their focus lapse and ruin their great start.
The SC game (in spurts) showed you just how good this group could be offensively. SC was helpless vs. the interior passing and dunk fest it led to. The OM game showed you how good this team could be defensively. KBW controlled the rim and OM was left having to hit tough 3's.
Now is the time to turn it on. Because let me tell you something, for as good as the sum of the parts are for Tennessee, LSU's INDIVIDUAL pieces are better. It's just a matter of getting those great pieces to function as a single unit. Last week they did and you saw the end result.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 12:30 pm to Alt26
Good assessment, but those lapses that you mentioned both followed emotional games where they left it all on the court in early season tournaments.
We had 24 hours to prep for teams that we hadn’t prepped for much at all.
Last year LSU focused on Michigan because we knew it could make our whole season.
This year we take FSU to over time and could not get up for a consolation game.
I don’t see this happening in League play where we’ll always have at least 3 days to prepare.
We had 24 hours to prep for teams that we hadn’t prepped for much at all.
Last year LSU focused on Michigan because we knew it could make our whole season.
This year we take FSU to over time and could not get up for a consolation game.
I don’t see this happening in League play where we’ll always have at least 3 days to prepare.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 12:36 pm to thunderbird1100
Let’s do it. Every win counts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 1:01 pm to Alt26
quote:i'm so glad someone said this because I TOTALLY AGREE. i've kept an eye on the whole conference and tenn individually does not scare me. yes, williams is a load down low. so is chris silva and he was absolutely not a factor. yeah, gafford got his but he also lost and was the beneficiary of some touch fouls. lsu can match up with anybody, anywhere, anytime. even duke.
as good as the sum of the parts are for Tennessee, LSU's INDIVIDUAL pieces are better
having said that, ky is good. you could see the potential in the auburn game. they got sloppy at the end but, dang. they are good inside and out. it will be monumentally tough to beat them there because lsu will not sneak in there. ky will be ready.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 1:17 pm to RidiculousHype
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Man I’ve really started to look forward to these. You do a great job breaking it down. Here’s to 5-0
Absolutely
Posted on 1/21/19 at 1:32 pm to bfniii
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i'm so glad someone said this because I TOTALLY AGREE. i've kept an eye on the whole conference and tenn individually does not scare me. yes, williams is a load down low. so is chris silva and he was absolutely not a factor. yeah, gafford got his but he also lost and was the beneficiary of some touch fouls. lsu can match up with anybody, anywhere, anytime. even duke.
Tenn. doesn't have any single player who is a blue chip NBA talent. But the guys they have are very experienced and play GREAT as a team. It's like a machine. If all the parts are operating together in unison then they are tough to stop. But, individual talent still matters and if you can get it to gel, then there's nothing a lesser talented team can do.
That's what Cal does throughout the season at UK. Uber talented players struggle a bit early because they are worse as a group they are individually. But, by the time March rolls along those individual pieces have started to fit together. It's why Johnny Jones was able to pull off some big upsets along with inexplicable losses. When his individual pieces meshed, no one could beat them. Unfortunately, there was no consistency as to when that happened.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 1:47 pm to Alt26
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Tenn. doesn't have any single player who is a blue chip NBA talent. But the guys they have are very experienced and play GREAT as a team. It's like a machine. If all the parts are operating together in unison then they are tough to stop. But, individual talent still matters and if you can get it to gel, then there's nothing a lesser talented team can do.
Tennessee really is an enigma, you look at them and they have almost no NBA talent really. Every single player that plays for them was an outside the Top 100 3-star. Seriously, not even a single 4-star on that team except 1 guy, and he is being redshirted.
Really blows the mind what Rick Barnes has been able to do there. Texas kind of just gave up on him, and he just turned Tennessee right back around to what they were under Bruce Pearl basically, and with no big time NBA talent. Grant Williams is an excellent player but he's like a 6'5 power forward
Him and Admiral Schofield along with Jordan Bone are all playing their best basketball they've ever played at Tennessee at the exact same time.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 1/21/19 at 1:51 pm to thunderbird1100
This is a tough game to get starters motivated for. The coach has to be ready to bench them for some time if they show lack of focus. Just not sure we have the depth to do that.
Basketball doesn't allow a player in a few games without burning a redshirt like football, does it?
Basketball doesn't allow a player in a few games without burning a redshirt like football, does it?
Posted on 1/21/19 at 1:56 pm to mmcgrath
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Basketball doesn't allow a player in a few games without burning a redshirt like football, does it?
Nope, this is why Cooper and Hyatt have not played at all this year.
Probably a rule that should change. Make it similar to football, can play in up to 33.3% of regular season games and still take a redshirt.
Also would make it easier to find hidden gems probably for coaches. Imagine Tyrus Thomas playing some a year earlier.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 1:58 pm
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