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L S Usetheforce
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This is the prove it game for both teams.....
For LSU:

All the naysayers and all the O detractors are waiting to pounce. All the 3-21 @ Ole Miss guys who say he is the same guy are waiting in the weeds. This is the biggest game in the SEC this week....I think both teams are better than Tennessee or Florida.

If Coach O and his LSU Tigers have a strong showing on the road, it will be difficult for the doubters moving forward. He will have proven his plan and philosophy are resonating with the team. Win this game and he is 5-0 headed to Florida.

For MSU:

All the national media say Mullen is the 2nd best coach in the SEC. All the national media is in love with Fitzgerald. People are putting him with labels as best player on the field Saturday night. This is a huge prove it game for Fitzgerald proving he can grind out SEC victories against tough defenses.

In addition, MSU has a revamped D. Can they become a top 5 unit in the SEC this season? They are at home and are portraying an extremely confident mindset despite the lopsidedness in the series. I don't think they respect Coach O based off the past, but he isn't going to be on the field.

This is a HUGE game.

This post was edited on 9/13 at 10:29 am


BayouCowboy
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re: This is the prove it game for both teams.....
I agree. At this point, what LSU and MSU thinks they know and what they DO know is still undetermined.

It will definitely be a "show me" Saturday.


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lsu2006
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re: This is the prove it game for both teams.....
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If Coach O and his LSU Tigers have a strong showing on the road, it will be difficult for the doubters moving forward. He will have proven his plan and philosophy are resonating with the team.


I agree that it would be a nice win and would be especially encouraging if we cut back on the penalties and hit some FGs, but since when did beating State become such a monumental accomplishment? We still have to play Auburn, UF and Bama.


FreddieMac
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re: This is the prove it game for both teams.....
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If Coach O and his LSU Tigers have a strong showing on the road, it will be difficult for the doubters moving forward. He will have proven his plan and philosophy are resonating with the team. Win this game and he is 5-0 headed to Florida.


Hahaha I love how all the negatiger fire Les Miles people are now the we love O for running the same offense. 50 pre-snap adjustments Guice left, 20 pre-snap adjustments Guice right, 25 pre-snap adjustments 50 yard hail mary and hope for the best. The ONLY thing different is all the presnap movement. And that is not different becuase negatigers complained about that when we fired the OC before Kragthorp. LSU has run the Canada offense under circa 2010-13.

O does not have near the track record of Les Miles. Until he wins the SEC and has a National Championship, he will be a questionable hire.



emanresu
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re: This is the prove it game for both teams.....
People didn't have a problem running the ball. They had a problem running the ball predictably.


Lebowski
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re: This is the prove it game for both teams.....
Lsu losing this game would be a huge FAIL. No one was predicting a loss to State when the season started. Good programs WIN the games they're supposed to WIN.



Dawgfan128
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re: This is the prove it game for both teams.....
Are you seriously this stupid? My guess is you know very little about football...nothing wrong with that. The fact that you can't see that we are no longer predictable tells me that. Les was famous for I'm gonna run it at you....stop me. That worked several years. Then it didn't.


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gettin there
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re: This is the prove it game for both teams.....
In the end, moo u will be moo u---a pile of crap lying in a grass field.........


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Topwater Trout
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re: This is the prove it game for both teams.....
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since when did beating State become such a monumental accomplishment?


This


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TigerBait2008
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re: This is the prove it game for both teams.....
Holy stupid, typed all that stupidity by yourself?


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Goldrush25
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re: This is the prove it game for both teams.....
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I agree that it would be a nice win and would be especially encouraging if we cut back on the penalties and hit some FGs, but since when did beating State become such a monumental accomplishment? We still have to play Auburn, UF and Bama.


Lowered expectations.


chimneylooker
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re: This is the prove it game for both teams.....
I see what you're saying but it won't play out that way. If Moo St wins then they will get some love. If LSU wins it'll be because the bulldogs aren't that good. That's always how this plays out.
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L S Usetheforce
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re: This is the prove it game for both teams.....
Oh I agree about its just another win for LSU and then it will be prove it at Florida....However it is big in that this is O and Canada's chance to show the SEC competition that things are going to be different.


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Alt26
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re: This is the prove it game for both teams.....
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Lsu losing this game would be a huge FAIL. No one was predicting a loss to State when the season started. Good programs WIN the games they're supposed to WIN.


It's a HUGE game for LSU only if they lose. Sorry, but neither LSU nor Coach O will get any increased "due respect" for beating an un-ranked team/program (a) coming off 5-7 record last season (b) has 2 blowout wins against weak opponents (3) LSU has defeated 15 of last 16 meetings

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If Coach O and his LSU Tigers have a strong showing on the road, it will be difficult for the doubters moving forward. He will have proven his plan and philosophy are resonating with the team. Win this game and he is 5-0 headed to Florida.


All it will "prove" is that Ogeron can win a game he's SUPPOSED to win. Jesus Christ! He's not taking a team in Norman, OK, Tuscaloosa, AL or Clemson, SC to play a top 5 program.

The national perception if LSU wins will be "Great. We see LSU can still beat unranked SEC teams they always beat." If he loses the game though......


L S Usetheforce
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re: This is the prove it game for both teams.....
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All it will "prove" is that Ogeron can win a game he's SUPPOSED to win. Jesus Christ! He's not taking a team in Norman, OK, Tuscaloosa, AL or Clemson, SC to play a top 5 program.

The national perception if LSU wins will be "Great. We see LSU can still beat unranked SEC teams they always beat." If he loses the game though.....


I hear what you are saying and I agree.....however, at this point there are a ton of people who don't believe he can....I do. That's why it is important......because 1st impressions are the most important ones.


monroetiger13
Member since Aug 2013
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re: This is the prove it game for both teams.....
This is going to be a very tough game and, yes, I am aware of the history. We haven't exactly rolled over them last few years. This MSU team is much better than last year's team and this is our first road game in tough environment with many freshmen. We better be much better with not getting penalties, which is a challenge in that environment. MSU's defense is best we've faced and they are better than us up front right now. Not real excited about what we have right now with NT and two D-ends. No depth there and if we don't have Lawrence, it makes a difference. How muck Key can give us is still a question. I believe that the key is our offensive's ability to make plays and avoid turnovers. Hopefully we get this win and have a chance to get healthy on defensive line before next big game. FH really let this team down because he was going to be a big player on the D-line.
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ThePTExperience1969
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re: This is the prove it game for both teams.....
It will validate what LSU fans have known since the A&M game: that LSU is an SEC force to be reckoned with relative to outsiders' opinions of the team. LSU should be able to win this game IIRC Mississippi State hasn't defeated the Tigers in Starkville since the beginning of the millennium and we sure as hell aren't about to start now with Guice, Etling and our Aranda-led defense.


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lsu2006
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re: This is the prove it game for both teams.....
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If Moo St wins then they will get some love. If LSU wins it'll be because the bulldogs aren't that good. That's always how this plays out.

As it should. LSU is and always has been a far superior program. Win this one while cutting down on the mental mistakes and I'll be encouraged, but it won't really "prove" anything. Unless we've lowered our standards to where beating a 6-7 win team is something to hang our hats on. God willing that isn't the case.


L S Usetheforce
LSU Fan
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re: This is the prove it game for both teams.....
I find it funny now after months of reading about how shitty the hire was....no matter what he does in this game it won't matter because we are lowering our standards if we play dominant football against an SEC opponent.
This post was edited on 9/13 at 11:39 am


ThePTExperience1969
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re: This is the prove it game for both teams.....
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They had a problem running the ball predictably.


You can't stop what you can't stop regardless of anticipation. The best running teams in the history of football imposed their will on defenses consistently regardless of the opponent's well-founded anticipation of the predictable run.


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