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re: The Orgeron Extension Talk: Why?
Posted on 2/1/19 at 5:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 2/1/19 at 5:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Oh cool
So does that mean they didn’t lose 21 games the 3 years before?
Because I could swear that losing 7 games a year isn’t a thing that good teams do.
It’s weird that you’re using those ranking to tell me Herman is overrated but Yoo still think O didn’t have the talent to win 11 games.
So does that mean they didn’t lose 21 games the 3 years before?
Because I could swear that losing 7 games a year isn’t a thing that good teams do.
It’s weird that you’re using those ranking to tell me Herman is overrated but Yoo still think O didn’t have the talent to win 11 games.
This post was edited on 2/1/19 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 2/1/19 at 5:03 pm to SammyTiger
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So does that mean they didn’t lose 21 games the 3 years before?
No. It means they consistently underperformed
They were 9th in talent last year
Posted on 2/1/19 at 5:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Wtf are you blabbing about? I have no idea WTF you're talking about.
Wow you really need help.

Posted on 2/1/19 at 5:04 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Correct. I'm not ready to name kids after him
He underperformed.
That was easy.
That was easy.
This post was edited on 2/1/19 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 2/1/19 at 5:04 pm to slackster
quote:Really. If you had a son with multi-million dollar NFL potential... would you want things kinda ok with the future of the HC? Or would you want ALL the t's crossed and all the i's dotted?
You've got multiple people trying to argue recruiting is negatively impacted by only being under contract through 2021. It's an absurd take with no basis in reality.
Every recruit worth a shite knows Orgeron will be here as long as he's winning. Plain and simple.
An HC with a long-term contract and a secure buyout figure will win all the close ones. TITTB
This post was edited on 2/1/19 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 2/1/19 at 5:05 pm to tigerfoot
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won’t hurt recruiting. Nothing creates stability. A tenured coach can be fired as soon as program shuts the bed.
But if other coaches that have similar performance as O are receiving raises and extensions and o is not there is a valid reason to raise an eyebro
What coach at a program with title expectations gets extensions and raises after having 3.5 losses a year and the 5th best sec class?
Im not upset with the extension until i see the buyout im just arguing that extending him doesnt create stability without winning. If we lose 3 games next year there will still be questions.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 5:06 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Or maybe they were overrated
Or maybe they’re more talented since Herman took over. He did have the #2 class compared to 0s number 15 class
Yet LSU was still more talented this year
Surely we won’t more games.
Or maybe they’re more talented since Herman took over. He did have the #2 class compared to 0s number 15 class
Yet LSU was still more talented this year
Surely we won’t more games.
This post was edited on 2/1/19 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 2/1/19 at 5:06 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Correct. I'm not ready to name kids after him ? He underperformed.
That was easy.
Wow. You can wiggle out of anything.
Did you really think i thought you were wanting to name kids after him?
Posted on 2/1/19 at 5:08 pm to SammyTiger
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Or maybe they were overrated
Maybe they aren't.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 5:09 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Wow. You can wiggle out of anything.
No ones ever said 9-4 was a great year
You make stuff up as you go.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 5:09 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:
Really. If you had a son with multi-million dollar NFL potential... would you want things kinda ok with the future of the HC? Or would you want ALL the t's crossed and all the i's dotted?
Winning only creates stability.
Not some piece of paper that is broken every year by programs.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 5:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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No ones ever said 9-4 was a great year ?
You make stuff up as you go.
Yet you make up talent disparities so you dont have to blame scheme and coaches.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 5:10 pm to SammyTiger
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Yet LSU was still more talented this year
And we performed better
Posted on 2/1/19 at 5:11 pm to SammyTiger
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It’s weird that you’re using those ranking to tell me Herman is overrated but Yoo still think O didn’t have the talent to win 11 games.
He constantly applies logic to some coaches tat he doesnt apply to O.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 5:12 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:
Yet you make up talent disparities
Posted on 2/1/19 at 5:14 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Maybe you’re usinn a ranking that is from 2018 and doesn’t represent the team Herman took over.
Is talent all it takes to win? Because it seems like Herman took a talented team that was losing and not only improved the talent but helped them actually win games
Where as O took a talented team that average 9.25 games the 4 years before and won 9.5 games.
Is talent all it takes to win? Because it seems like Herman took a talented team that was losing and not only improved the talent but helped them actually win games
Where as O took a talented team that average 9.25 games the 4 years before and won 9.5 games.
This post was edited on 2/1/19 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 2/1/19 at 5:17 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:what title seeking programs pay their coach 3.5 million?
What coach at a program with title expectations gets extensions and raises after having 3.5 losses a year and the 5th best sec class?
You want to compare extensions w Herman as the other poster did? The other coaches seeking titles? Probably not the argument to take here.
It’s about the buyout. As you have mentioned. You give O a fifth year of his original at 6.25 million as Herman has, or 25 million guaranteed and we don’t need an extension.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 5:17 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:
Winning only creates stability.
Not some piece of paper that is broken every year by programs.
Jimbo only won 9 games this season. But his 68 million-dollar buyout (and 9 year contract) provides a hell of a lot of stability.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 5:18 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Jimbo only won 9 games this season. But his 68 million-dollar buyout (and 9 year contract) provides a hell of a lot of stability.
Exactly. Is terribly low salary make any comparisons to top 10 coaches silly
Posted on 2/1/19 at 5:18 pm to tigerfoot
What championship seeking program hires a coach with a losing record
Besides Auburn.
Would paying O 6 million dollars a year make him more able to win a championship?
Besides Auburn.
Would paying O 6 million dollars a year make him more able to win a championship?
This post was edited on 2/1/19 at 5:22 pm
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