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re: The Orgeron Extension Talk: Why?
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:21 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:21 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Why even have contract lengths then?
Should just be indefinite contracts for everyone. ADs are so dumb
Again, 3 years mean the decision on whether to keep him is down the road.
It doesn’t mean don’t extend him next year.
Should just be indefinite contracts for everyone. ADs are so dumb
Again, 3 years mean the decision on whether to keep him is down the road.
It doesn’t mean don’t extend him next year.
This post was edited on 2/1/19 at 3:22 pm
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:22 pm to SammyTiger
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It’s crazy that you think O would be successful if he didn’t have a 2.5 million dollar DC
I didn't say that in my post anywhere.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:23 pm to bencoleman
So it’s not laughable to think a coach who was a huuuuge part of Os success could be successful?
Seems to have worked at OU, and Stoops > O in lost regards.
Seems to have worked at OU, and Stoops > O in lost regards.
This post was edited on 2/1/19 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:27 pm to TigerBait2008
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Holy retard..
Im sorry you dont follow cfb.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:28 pm to SammyTiger
quote:at his salary the extension is benign.
he does that again extend him for sure.
Unless it’s the bad kind of 10-3 like 2015 if we play McNeese.
Then hot seat. Right?
It is more important to show long term support if the coach.
Recruiting demands it
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:30 pm to tigerfoot
Clearly it doesn’t
We’re recruiting better with less years on the contract than we did with all the years on the contract.
Winning is necisaary for recruiting.
And the extension will include a buyout extension. Why would O not demand that? And what good would an ungauranteed contract do for recruiting?
The only way “stability” can be used against O next year is if he’s not performing. End of story.
We’re recruiting better with less years on the contract than we did with all the years on the contract.
Winning is necisaary for recruiting.
And the extension will include a buyout extension. Why would O not demand that? And what good would an ungauranteed contract do for recruiting?
The only way “stability” can be used against O next year is if he’s not performing. End of story.
This post was edited on 2/1/19 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:30 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Absolutely wrong. HC's make promises to recruits and families that often go out 4 or 5 years. If the shcool doesn't have 5 year;s worth of confidence in their HC, how the hell can a recruit's family have confidence
Even the coaches that make promises arent required to keep it.
Again, coaches are fired all the time regardless of lenght. Recruits know this.
Please link to one recruit ever mentioning a coaches contract as a reason for committing. It should be essy since its such a widespread and real thing. Youre talking out of your arse. Just one.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:33 pm to SammyTiger
quote:Aranda is a solid DC, but he made some blunders this season.
So it’s not laughable to think a coach who was a huuuuge part of Os success could be successful?
And Buckeyes all remember Aranda's MONSTER defense at Wisconsin in 2014 - Pretty sure the score was Ohio State 59, Wisconsin Zero.
I'm not knocking Aranda. I'm just saying with the quality of players, LSU gets on defense, Aranda is not irreplaceable
This post was edited on 2/1/19 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:33 pm to tigerfoot
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is more important to show long term support if the coach.
Recruiting demands it
Long term stability is only created by winning at an elite at a program like lsu. We arent some mid level program hoping to keep coaches for years if they arent winning any titles. Recruits know that. The fact that any of you think contracts actually create stability is laughable. If O loses6 or 7 games next year, how stable does that 5 year contract look?
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:33 pm to SammyTiger
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So it’s not laughable to think a coach who was a huuuuge part of Os success could be successful
No it's laughable to bring up during extension talks with a coach that for all practical purposes is doing well and has no intention of stepping down.
It's beyond ridiculous.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:35 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
O should fire that bum.
Coach the defense himself and that clears up 2.5 to get O up to the 6 million he deserves
Return to his monster teams from Ole Miss
If Aranda gave up 59 to an Ohio State offense that only scored 42 on Alabama that year and won a NC, then he can get fricked
Coach the defense himself and that clears up 2.5 to get O up to the 6 million he deserves
Return to his monster teams from Ole Miss
If Aranda gave up 59 to an Ohio State offense that only scored 42 on Alabama that year and won a NC, then he can get fricked
This post was edited on 2/1/19 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:36 pm to tigerfoot
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at his salary the extension is benign.
Simple as that.
There's really nothing to melt about at this point.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:36 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Aranda is a solid DC, but he made some blunders this season.
And Buckeyes all remember Aranda's MONSTER defense at Wisconsin in 2014 - Pretty sure the score was Ohio State 59, Wisconsin Zero.
Well i wish we could go over O's history as a DC. Also, did you see our losses last year against vastly inferior teams and our losses this year against inferior teams.are those not on the HC.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:38 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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I'm not knocking Aranda.
If anyone said the following things about Orgeron, you would flip your pussy inside out...
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he made some blunders this season.
And Buckeyes all remember Aranda's MONSTER defense at Wisconsin in 2014 - Pretty sure the score was Ohio State 59, Wisconsin Zero.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:38 pm to SammyTiger
quote:so we are recruiting well and winning.
We’re recruiting better with less years on the contract than we did with all the years on the contract.
Winning is necisaary for recruiting.
Yeah I wouldn’t reward that bastard either. Because he lost at Ole Miss and all
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:39 pm to bencoleman
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No it's laughable to bring up during extension talks with a coach that for all practical purposes is doing well and has no intention of stepping down.
It's beyond ridiculous.
So why not let that coach win his way into stability in his 3rd year instead of trying to manufacture stability that everyone,especially recruits, know is bullshite.
If we have a bad 2019-2020 season that new contract does frick all but hurt lsu in a potential buyout.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:39 pm to tigerfoot
This year
Give him a bonus or a raise
frick his contract should have bonuses for things like finishing in the top 10
But I am Saying, don’t commit to a long term deal without seeing if this is the best O is going to do.
Give him a bonus or a raise
frick his contract should have bonuses for things like finishing in the top 10
But I am Saying, don’t commit to a long term deal without seeing if this is the best O is going to do.
This post was edited on 2/1/19 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:41 pm to bencoleman
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What's laughable is your scenario that has a successful coach talking about handing the reins over to a total unknown. Who has never coached at that level before. It's absolutely ridiculous.
It makes perfect sense because of who O is (a stop-gap, figure head coach), who Aranda is (a top, young DC with HC aspirations), and where LSU is as a program.
Let's say LSU extends O's contract 2 years but there's a stipulation that says Aranda becomes HC at the end of the extension. O would be in his 60s at that point and still a stop-gap, figure head coach. Aranda would be one of the top defensive minds in college football and looking to be a HC somewhere. If LSU lets Aranda walk and then simply promotes from within (like it's done it's last two major hires) it would have a losing season the year Aranda leaves.
My strategy is not "laughable" or "absolutely ridiculous". It's sound succession planning. You just don't like it because you like O as much or more than the program.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:42 pm to tigerfoot
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o we are recruiting well and winning
I remember just 3 years ago averaging 3.5 losses a season wasnt considered meeting expectations.
Also at this point we are averaging the 5th best recruiting in the sec.
O will be here forever since losing 3.5 games a year, having a bad offense, and having average(though looking great this year) classes is considered doing well.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:42 pm to SammyTiger
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don’t commit to a long term deal without seeing if this is the best O is going to do.
How many coaching contracts have you been involved with?
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