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The NCAA should have given more thought on granting athletes the ability to opt out
Posted on 9/4/20 at 10:08 am
Posted on 9/4/20 at 10:08 am
Considering the recent events of the many football players opting out of the 2020 season, the NCAA should have given this more thought and how this may have affected players not wanting to play because of their position on the depth chart. I truly believe some players are using this opt out for reasons other than their fear of covid infection. This opt out policy, should have had a deadline date and that date should have at least been in early August.
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Posted on 9/4/20 at 10:08 am to coondaddy21
eeh frick it. Play the game with the other guys.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 10:10 am to dagrippa
Agree completely. Let the guys who want to be here play.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 10:12 am to coondaddy21
Considering they are not employees, I don’t think you can do that.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 10:13 am to coondaddy21
Come on the NCAA tries to screw that athletes at every turn, this was one of the few things they done that favors the players. Suppose you have a deadline in August and suddenly there is an outbreak at your school and you can't opt out any more.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 10:28 am to coondaddy21
They did that's why they let them do it. You can't have schools playing football because Covid is going to kill everyone.
Smirk on face as I type this.
It's all about politics. You have to listen to me when I tell you Covid is bad and if you do not I am going to make it hurt you my way.
That's the point of it. I really believe that 99.9% of schools would have let the kids sit out with out NCAA. Medical redshirt would be in place. But NCAA needs to control the conferences.
Believe dat
Smirk on face as I type this.
It's all about politics. You have to listen to me when I tell you Covid is bad and if you do not I am going to make it hurt you my way.
That's the point of it. I really believe that 99.9% of schools would have let the kids sit out with out NCAA. Medical redshirt would be in place. But NCAA needs to control the conferences.
Believe dat
Posted on 9/4/20 at 10:32 am to coondaddy21
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This opt out policy, should have had a deadline date and that date should have at least been in early August.
Or what? Force chase to play?
Posted on 9/4/20 at 10:40 am to coondaddy21
Except the players don’t lose a year of eligibility regardless of whether they opt out or not. So what the hell is the difference?
Posted on 9/4/20 at 10:41 am to coondaddy21
The players are powerless and you want the NCAA to take even more from them.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 10:50 am to coondaddy21
As a fan, I don't like the opt outs. But what do you expect the NCAA to do? Force them to play? Slavery ended a long time ago.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 10:55 am to sportsfan
quote:good lord, man.
But what do you expect the NCAA to do? Force them to play? Slavery ended a long time ago
I think the OP was referring to the NCAA not counting opt outs against eligibility.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 10:57 am to coondaddy21
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should have had a deadline date and that date should have at least been in early August.
LOL.. maybe We should have just given Covid a deadline date !.. Early August would have worked fine.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 10:58 am to atltiger6487
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I think the OP was referring to the NCAA not counting opt outs against eligibility.
Sorry, there's no sarcasm emoticon. Relax
Posted on 9/4/20 at 11:26 am to coondaddy21
Oh forced labor without pay is what you’re calling for? Jesus Christ bro get over the fact that some guys left...
Posted on 9/4/20 at 11:28 am to coondaddy21
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The NCAA should have given more thought on granting athletes the ability to opt out
They literally gave everyone a free year. This season doesnt count towards eligibility.
Its like a free year of school for the non NFL guys. They could come out so far ahead in terms of schooling that its not even funny.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 11:32 am to coondaddy21
What if::: the NCAA said it’s a lotto year. Take all the players that want to play and the coaches basically draft players. Seems about as logical as anything the NCAA has done up to this point.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 11:46 am to kengel2
quote:I have no issue with anyone wanting to opt out. I want to see them play, but everyone should get to make their own decisions.quote:
The NCAA should have given more thought on granting athletes the ability to opt out
They literally gave everyone a free year. This season doesnt count towards eligibility.
Its like a free year of school for the non NFL guys. They could come out so far ahead in terms of schooling that its not even funny.
At least at SEC schools, they get to make a choice. There are lots of Big 10 and Pac 12 players that probably WANT to play, that got shut down.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 12:04 pm to coondaddy21
The NCAA would then be opening up itself to some significant issues there. First, you can't force the kids to play by setting a deadline. That said, there could/should be an in-season deadline regarding opting out with respect to not losing a year of eligibility (if there is not one already). Otherwise, you could have an issue where a guy plays all season. Gets injured in game 9. Then decides to opt out "because of coivd" to in essence get a de facto red shirt year, even though the real reason he is opting out is the injury...not fear of covid. I don't think you will see many players take that route on their own. But I promise you there will be coaches who will want to exploit that loophole.
For instance, let's say you have a senior QB who starts 8 games before suffering a season ending injury. Assuming that player isn't just dead set on leaving, don't you think a coach would "nudge" him to opt out to get another year of eligibility so said coach could get his senior QB back for another season?
As for guys who get close to the season opener and "opt out" because they are buried on the dept chart, it's not that big of a deal. Yes, the HC will be angry that he lost depth because the players weren't happy about not starting. But that would probably correct itself. (1) It would allow other guys to pass up the players who opted out. (2) The HC is going to continue to recruit, so it is very likely the new guys will be brought in to try to replace the ones sitting out. In short, those disgruntled backups are taking a risk they will fall further down the depth chart by sitting out.
If anything, I expect as the season goes along coaches will use the opt out options as a sword instead of a shield. Somewhat similar to what Houston did with King last year. If a coach has a good senior player but, for whatever reason, the season goes to shite quickly (loses first 3-4 games) that HC might encourage his senior to opt out so they can take another swing at a good season next year. Of course, it will work both ways (like King) where good senior players on a bad team will bail in order to be able to transfer to a better team next season. Particularly QB's
For instance, let's say you have a senior QB who starts 8 games before suffering a season ending injury. Assuming that player isn't just dead set on leaving, don't you think a coach would "nudge" him to opt out to get another year of eligibility so said coach could get his senior QB back for another season?
As for guys who get close to the season opener and "opt out" because they are buried on the dept chart, it's not that big of a deal. Yes, the HC will be angry that he lost depth because the players weren't happy about not starting. But that would probably correct itself. (1) It would allow other guys to pass up the players who opted out. (2) The HC is going to continue to recruit, so it is very likely the new guys will be brought in to try to replace the ones sitting out. In short, those disgruntled backups are taking a risk they will fall further down the depth chart by sitting out.
If anything, I expect as the season goes along coaches will use the opt out options as a sword instead of a shield. Somewhat similar to what Houston did with King last year. If a coach has a good senior player but, for whatever reason, the season goes to shite quickly (loses first 3-4 games) that HC might encourage his senior to opt out so they can take another swing at a good season next year. Of course, it will work both ways (like King) where good senior players on a bad team will bail in order to be able to transfer to a better team next season. Particularly QB's
Posted on 9/4/20 at 12:30 pm to Alt26
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That said, there could/should be an in-season deadline regarding opting out with respect to not losing a year of eligibility (if there is not one already).
I may be mistaken, but I thought they said everyone gets this year as a free year whether they play or not.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 12:31 pm to coondaddy21
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This opt out policy, should have had a deadline date
Exactly...now you get blind sided by key players who either fear getting hurt or being beaten out.
Personally, I think it stinks! Between dealing with some of these Premadonna's during their recruitment and all these "Top 10's" and "Dream School" fantasies...now coaches are left with a big hole in the team for those who for whatever reason want to skip the year.
IN most cases they seem like narcissists who think only of self!
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