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The Improvement in Strength and Conditioning Can't be Overstated
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:00 am
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:00 am
ETA: Props to tilthatday for correcting me 
I know it's been discussed on here before, but the improvement we have seen in strength and conditioning has been huge. We all appreciated what Moffitt and his staff did while they were here, but I think it was time for a change.
In all three games (particularly FSU and MSU), this team has looked fresh all the way through the end of the game. Hell, by the end of the 4th quarters they looked like they could go 2-3 more quarters.
None of that negates the need for us to get off to better starts, but you could tell we had fresher legs than MSU at the end of the game. We wore their arse out in that 4th quarter and they were gassed.
Not entirely sure what this staff is doing differently, but it's working. At some point this year, our fresh legs are going to help us win a game. I imagine it's the way Kelly runs practices, but I'd be curious what else they've been doing to ensure the players are better conditioned.
I know it's been discussed on here before, but the improvement we have seen in strength and conditioning has been huge. We all appreciated what Moffitt and his staff did while they were here, but I think it was time for a change.
In all three games (particularly FSU and MSU), this team has looked fresh all the way through the end of the game. Hell, by the end of the 4th quarters they looked like they could go 2-3 more quarters.
None of that negates the need for us to get off to better starts, but you could tell we had fresher legs than MSU at the end of the game. We wore their arse out in that 4th quarter and they were gassed.
Not entirely sure what this staff is doing differently, but it's working. At some point this year, our fresh legs are going to help us win a game. I imagine it's the way Kelly runs practices, but I'd be curious what else they've been doing to ensure the players are better conditioned.
This post was edited on 9/21/22 at 8:14 am
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Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:04 am to sweetwaterbilly
From S&C to coaching to seeing FR like Campbell, Jones and Perkins provide immediate impact you can feel it.
Something special is brewing down on the bayou.
Something special is brewing down on the bayou.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:08 am to sweetwaterbilly
This can't be true. Anytime someone was critical of Moffitt, they were informed about how Moffitt was the master and why take a chance on a pupil when you have the professor.
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 9:49 am
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:10 am to sweetwaterbilly
Overstated
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:12 am to BayouCowboy
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Something special is brewing down on the bayou.
And it feels so fricking good.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:13 am to tilthatday
Look no further than the Williams Td to see what a s&c program can do. That dude showed no real physicality last year.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:13 am to tilthatday
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Overstated
Hey, I've never been accused of being smart
Good catch.Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:14 am to tilthatday
Yes.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:17 am to sweetwaterbilly
No, it can be overstated & it is.
You would have seen the same improvement with our players if Moffitt was still in charge. I appreciate what Jake Flint brings to the program, but the improvement is because Brian Kelly is the HC
You would have seen the same improvement with our players if Moffitt was still in charge. I appreciate what Jake Flint brings to the program, but the improvement is because Brian Kelly is the HC
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:18 am to sweetwaterbilly
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S&C coaching change impacts. What do you expect?Posted on 7/27/22 at 12:41 pm
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This seems like a change that has been a little under the radar, but I fully expect this to be a huge difference in our teams performance. Especially towards the end of the season. Moffitt was fantastic for many years, but for the last 5 or so years it just seemed like we were being passed up in this area. Moffitt was more of an old school guy and got a lot out of his guys, but I think science being used now will be a significant change in performance.
What effect do you hope to notice or see this season?
I had a feeling this would be a big deal. I fully agree by the way. We are seeing the benefits of fresh ideas and modern approaches
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:21 am to sweetwaterbilly
But but..Leach said both teams were fatigued at the end of their game 
..I think he realized at the last second he couldn’t just say only his team was fatigued…which they were.
..I think he realized at the last second he couldn’t just say only his team was fatigued…which they were.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:32 am to sweetwaterbilly
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Not entirely sure what this staff is doing differently, but it's working. At some point this year, our fresh legs are going to help us win a game. I imagine it's the way Kelly runs practices
100%
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:36 am to sweetwaterbilly
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In all three games (particularly FSU and MSU), this team has looked fresh all the way through the end of the game. Hell, by the end of the 4th quarters they looked like they could go 2-3 more quarters.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:43 am to lsufb1912
Any improvement in strength and conditioning starts with the level of commitment and discipline of the players. That's before you ever get to the program created by the S & C coach.
A major part of the S & C improvement can be attributed to Kelly getting rid of the Orgeron locker room culture. If we still had that throughout the roster, we would look like we did last year.
A major part of the S & C improvement can be attributed to Kelly getting rid of the Orgeron locker room culture. If we still had that throughout the roster, we would look like we did last year.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:50 am to sweetwaterbilly
Kelly understands how to get the most out of his guys. He knows with a roster light on numbers he can’t go as hard as he wants. This team is going to look completely different at the end of the year and will be a launch pad for a 2023 CFP run barring complete catastrophe. I feel that a good amount of draft-eligible guys will stay onboard after seeing lots of development by this staff and a superb culture being in place. Add a quality NIL fund to keep guys and LSU is in a perfect position to springboard back into elite status.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:52 am to sweetwaterbilly
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We all appreciated what Moffitt and his staff did while they were here, but I think it was time for a change.
Why is there such a noticeable change from last year's out of shape team and this year's apparent very in shape team?
Did Moffitt let his S&C program slide?
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:54 am to D500MAG
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This can't be true. Anytime someone was critical of Moffitt, they informed about how Moffitt was the master and why take a chance on a pupil when you have the professor.
To be fair it seemed like the '20 and '21 teams were out of shape compared to the previous years. Maybe Moffitt was hamstrung by COVID rules and the team couldn't workout as much.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:59 am to GumboPot
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Why is there such a noticeable change from last year's out of shape team and this year's apparent very in shape team?
Did Moffitt let his S&C program slide?
It's funny how S&C improves when a head coach is brought in who focuses on accountability and you have a team who bought in over the summer. O didn't care what happened and players did the bare minimum and got away with it. S&C is more affected by the head coach than the actual S&C coach.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:00 am to nitwit
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Any improvement in strength and conditioning starts with the level of commitment and discipline of the players. That's before you ever get to the program created by the S & C coach.
A major part of the S & C improvement can be attributed to Kelly getting rid of the Orgeron locker room culture. If we still had that throughout the roster, we would look like we did last year.
this is the biggest thing here
the other big thing is Kelley knows how to run a practice that is stupid effecient and doesnt run the players in the ground.
Gordy said it best...he makes practice extremely hard, harder than a game as in when they are out there working, the pace is faster than the game, he then he cuts practice short so he is not running them in the ground.
one thing ed did right up through 2019 was he kept practice short. last year and even later half of 2020....he reverted to Ole Miss ed o and started practicing like Les did. this kills the kids especially when they are not used to it and that is one of the reasons you saw the extreme amount of injuries last 2 years.
Kellys approach is based on analytics and is the best approach period.
I have been a big supporter of Moffit, but my biggest gripe with him was the continued use of Old School conditioning and conditioning test. He conditioned to say he didnt want to hear about energy systems and how the 16-110 yard conditioning test didnt work the correct system used in football etc etc etc...it was about building mental toughness which is frankly complete old school bullshite. All those test and the continued sprinting like that at the end of practice does is serve to set the player up to be fatigued and susceptable to injury.
that is one area i am so glad we got rid of from the program. Also really happy that even though moffit had moved to a Velocity based system like we are currently using, we dont have the over reliance on olympic lifting to develop velocity/power like Moffit did. Everything now is being weighed on a risk/reward basis and if things are scalable aka easy to teach in a larger group setting without wasting precious time. Its very refreshing.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:08 am to GumboPot
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To be fair it seemed like the '20 and '21 teams were out of shape compared to the previous years. Maybe Moffitt was hamstrung by COVID rules and the team couldn't workout as much.
From about 2013 on the offensive and defensive lines were getting pushed around. First by the bamas and then by even mcneese and ULM.
2019 was a product of Clyde and Joe hiding some deficiencies.
A lot of things change in a decade much less the 20+ years that moffett was here.
It seemed like he had failed to adapt.
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