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re: THE Fundamental Flaw in Les's Football Philosophy
Posted on 3/31/16 at 5:28 pm to AlwysATgr
Posted on 3/31/16 at 5:28 pm to AlwysATgr
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Nope. With rare exception every team runs an O compatible with the skill-set of their QB. That's why it can function and its bad days are the outliers, not the norm. We're kind of the opposite.
Youre fricking crazy if think most cfb coaches change their offense to fit a qb. Do you even watch football?
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 5:40 pm to atltiger6487
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maybe their formation is the same, but they're unpredictable in what they're going to do on each play. So the defense is left guessing.
You mean like we run different shite out of the i?
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Our offense is not like that.
If our offense is so predictable how did we finish 4th in the sec in yards per game and 3rd in offensive points per game. Cfb is not about running some wild offense. Its about execution. A qb draw can go for 80 yards if its executed well. Coaches are not allowed enoigh on the field practice time to come up with these unpredictable and innovative plays every week. They watch film on the upcoming team and look for weaknesses and practice ALREADY KNOWN plays that will attack those weaknesses. Thats why having qbs that have been in the system longer is a great advantage. Theyve been there to learn more plays thusly allowing a bigger variation of plays to be practiced to attack other teams weaknesses.
If you watched other teams as closely as you do lsu you would realize that every cfb program runs the same plays all year.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 5:47 pm to AlwysATgr
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Rick, I'm normally a nice guy and care little to go ad hominem on my fellow Tiger fans. But in your case, an exception is warranted.
Get to the part where im supposed to care what some football ignorant poster thinks.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 6:05 pm to saturncube21
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His first priority will always be to execute Bo Schembechler's offense and to personify him in every way..
And as an extension of that, his goal is really to win the 1976 Big Ten title every year.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 6:16 pm to AlwysATgr
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O isn't engineered around the skill-set of our QB
Why should it be when we were #1 in the SEC in rushing. That doesn't mean Harris shouldn't be more effective, but gosh, who wants to take the ball out of the hands of a once in a decade or more RB???
Harris just has to hit more passes and we will be fine. imo
Posted on 3/31/16 at 6:49 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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You mean like we run different shite out of the i?
I don't know how, with a straight face, you can claim that our offense is unpredictable and attacks our opponent's weakness. That's just flat out wrong.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 7:39 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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6th for SEC games only. It was also 11th in the month of November
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Go ahead and throw all these qualifiers in.
You were the one who interjected yds/gm into the discussion, not me.
I just thought it noteworthy that at a time (Nov) when our O should be hitting its stride ours was regressing. Bama's D was great. The others were nothing special but they looked great against us.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 7:48 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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2 yards past the line of scrimmage doesn't exist?
It's not whether it's 2 or 4 yds downfield but whether first contact is at the LOS or in the backfield.
Why Bama chose to play it that way I don't know. Neuhiesel commented on this and how to counter it by sending a receiver across the middle which we apparently were not doing.
My point is that while Bama didn't "stack the box" they nonetheless over-committed to stopping the run with their safeties.
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LSU: Not afraid to come up and stop the run, recorded a team-leading six total tackles, including half a stop for a loss (-1 yard) ... limited the Tiger rushing attack to just 54 yards, including a season-low 31 by Leonard Fournette, the conference’s leading rusher.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 7:56 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Youre &*#@^%$ crazy if think most cfb coaches change their offense to fit a qb. Do you even watch football?
Most programs recruit kids that they have reason to believe they can fit what they want to do on O. So you are correct most don't change because they have no need to.
But here's a couple of examples of what I'm getting at:
1) Jeff Driskel - didn't fit at UF; natural at LaTech.
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Meacham said he feels the new offense fits Boykin well. “The simplicity of what we do helps him,” Meacham said. “A lot of the things we do are reactionary and that suits him.”
LINK
Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:18 pm to AlwysATgr
did not read the whole thread as it is 6 pages but do you think that Harris doesn't fit LSU's offense in some way?
There is no fundamental flaw in LSU's offense and it should be much improved this season.
There is no fundamental flaw in LSU's offense and it should be much improved this season.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:22 pm to AlwysATgr
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Example: how many of OM's players would've started for us on O in '15? Certainly Treadwell and Tunsil. Evan Engram maybe. So how was their O so much more functional than ours? It wasn't talent.
Uhm... Chad Kelly?
Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:36 pm to AlwysATgr
all systems have flaws, for example SEC football is built around bama's butt, I think this year we will spank that butt anyway !
Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:48 pm to chilge1
I think they were trying to do a lot more this past season than they had done in prior seasons but had a hard time trying to implement and execute it with Harris. This coming season with Harris in his 3rd season (or Eitling) we should see a lot more from this offense. Everything Miles has said since the end of last season (studying other offenses) and with reports from spring camp (emphasis on the pass game) and with the Texas Tech bowl game, all point to a more open offense (more diversified in all ways, not just the pass game) this coming season.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:48 pm to atltiger6487
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I don't know how, with a straight face, you can claim that our offense is unpredictable and attacks our opponent's weakness. That's just flat out wrong.
Because we do or atleast try to do. We tried opening up passing game against Bama.
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u can claim that our offense is unpredictabl
Again, cfb isnt about being unpredictable. Its about execution.
If our offense was so predictable we wouldnt have finished 4th in the sec in offensive yards per game.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:55 pm to AlwysATgr
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But here's a couple of examples of what I'm getting at:
1) Jeff Driskel - didn't fit at UF; natural at LaTech.
2)
Well of course some qbs are better suited for certain offensive schemes but when you say this
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IMO, our O isn't engineered around the skill-set of our QB and that's by intention. I
youre saying Cam doesn't call plays that play to Harris' strengths.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 9:00 pm to AlwysATgr
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just thought it noteworthy that at a time (Nov) when our O should be hitting its stride ours was regressing. .
Thats what usually happens when yoi play better teams.
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. Bama's D was great. The others were nothing special but they looked great against us.
Arkansas was 11th in the country in opponents rushing yards per game and Ole Miss was 21st in opponents rushing yards per game.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 9:33 pm to higgins
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im holding out for tom herman
yes, his one great year surely qualifies him as a slam dunk.
and against inferior competition at that.while he may turn out to be the real deal, the chances are he's just the "coach de jur" of 2015.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 9:39 pm to AlwysATgr
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IMO, our O isn't engineered around the skill-set of our QB
ok, you are certainly entitled to you opinion. but damn it, what is the skill set of our QB? you lack any meaningful specifics when you make your blanket statement.
I don't recall seeing any great skill set of our QB. maybe I missed something.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 9:47 pm to AlwysATgr
Posted on 4/1/16 at 12:45 am to Rickdaddy4188
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LINK
Conf Games 2015 (YPG / conf rank)
Bama 276 / 1
Arky 392 / 11
OM 386 / 9
Fightin' Chavises 380 / 8
Nov Games 2015 (YPG / conf rank)
Bama 243 / 1
Arky 430 / 13
OM 505 / 14
Fightin' Chavises 305 / 5
As I stated earlier, Bama's D was outstanding. The others we faced were nothing special. They all were giving up approx 100 YPG more than Bama. Only A&M was in the upper half of the SEC for Nov games.
This post was edited on 4/1/16 at 1:40 am
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